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Sources: Houston has started contacting teams about trading Dwight Howard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Feb 11, 2016.

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  1. Rudyc281

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    Who's BG
     
  2. JayZ750

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    This would be crazy if it happened. Though, it doesn't seem "THAT" far fetched. Everyone seems to get relatively fair value. The Clippers lose, but they lose any trade where they move Blake, probably.

    Also, not sure about salaries, but it's not hard to imagine the Cavs wouldn't just prefer to get Blake themselves. But if they can get Dwight AND Ariza, then maybe that becomes tempting.
     
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    Yes agreed. #Bobbynonlogic is the definition of ridiculous.

    Nope. Read Lowe's article again. Horford values his 5th year the most he is not a rental. And his max is actually a great contract when Rhyno is going to get 20 per. Or Barnes 21 per.
    You get a guy who will age perfectly has good health AND actually has been expanding his game to the 3point line.

    Tell me which teams would like to trade for Dwight to pay him 30 per for 5 and which teams would like to trade for Horford to pay him 25 per for 5.
    The one list is small the other is basically most teams in the league.

    That's why Atlanta's price is sky high while Houston has been shopping around for weeks trying to find a good deal.
     
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    Ah yes, double down on your foolishness while lashing out at others. Brilliant.
     
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    The one who is foolish is the one with no arguments with the agenda and the spins. #Bobbynonlogic
     
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    Quick question.... why again are we just assuming Ryan Anderson is getting 20 MILLION a year? What team is giving him that and why?
     
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    I'm assuming he's referring to Blake Griffin..
     
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    Detroit and SVG the PBO. Because they want to win now and he's the best stretch 4 they can find which is something they absolutely NEED. Not assuming this is the executives estimation. And almost always the executives' speculation is underestimating.
     
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    I would argue the one with the bad arguments that are laughable hot takes with the agenda and the spins (because why not just throw that in) is the foolish one. Either way, you are on record thinking that a rental of Horford is more valuable than a rental of Dwight Howard, which is simply adorable. We'll look back on this later and see if you try and walk it back.
     
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    too bad we can't look at it back, or for that matter all your ridiculous agenda posts and then force you to put Jones as the avatar with hearts on it. Perhaps that will shame you to not troll anymore.
     
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    Are you having a seizure?
     
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    You seem to be assuming the Rockets still want Howard. I think the Rockets are ready to move on from a core of Harden and Howard.

    The only players the Rockets will get back for Howard in a trade are other players that are on an expiring contract, or players on bad contracts that teams want to unload. Maybe the Rockets can pick up a draft pick.

    Les and Morey have probably decided that Harden and Howard don't work well together, so they are ready to make a fresh start. If they can trade Howard now and get anything at all of value it would be good. Maybe they can pick up a draft pick or something.

    The Howard era in Houston is over. Both the Rockets and Howard realize this. Time to move on.
     
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    I don't need to read Lowe's article, I know exactly how this stuff works.

    In expiring contract scenarios, trade value is not predicated on what people will earn in free agency, because the person who trades for them has no guarantee they will sign with them in free agency.

    Their value is solely what they will add in a playoff run in this final year of their contract.
     
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    Why would the Celtics want Howard at the cost of important players and picks, when he could easily walk after 27 games?

    Dwight's not the guy to make them instant contenders. With his contract ending, there's no chance they'd pay much for him.

    Houston isn't giving him away, so it's hard to see how a deal could happen unless Morey just decides at the last second to get whatever he can.
     
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    You keep Dwight. He is NOT the problem, you don't kneejerk and trade him away for a guaranteed lesser package and the fear of losing him in FA. The clock is ticking in houston.
     
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    I don't think so. Nothing really says they are ready to move on. DH's situation just happens to be an issue with the way the season has gone but that doesn't mean the towel is being thrown at this particular moment thinking that need to start completely fresh. DH still very well may be a Rocket after Thursday.
     
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    Man if you don't trade D12 you need to get a C who can shoot FTs. The horrid FT from our bigs is still a huge liability.
     
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    And whose bidding against Stan & the Pistons? Why would even he pay that without competition?

    Are a contending team like the Clippers, Spurs, or Memphis going to pay him to come off the bench?

    Yeah I think A LOT of teams will want him, but he's going to be viewed as a specialist to alot of these team, and young up and coming teams aren't viewing him as their cornerstone primary offensive option .

    I honestly think this number being thrown out is coming more from his agent to inflate his market value to hopefully make teams think they need to bid high to get him. His agent knows there will be a ton of interest so teams know they will have to pay to get him but how much is the question... and Anderson's agent is out there trying to tell GM's as is Fegan telling teams Dwight is a MAX player as well.
     
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    You trade away Dwight if he's planning on leaving in FA or if he has chemistry problems with Harden. You certainly trade him away if it's both.
     
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    No that's not right Larvs. In expiring contract scenarios the chance of a team resigning the player predicates to the most degree their trading value.
    Example Dragic. The fact that he agreed to resign with them made the deal happen. Example Rondo. The fact that he refused to sign with Sacramento (at that time) made the Kings stop pursuing him.

    In this example Dwights 5th year is actually a negative if he insists on getting max, whereas Horford's is a positive because it will be the carrot to get him back.

    How many teams in FA will go after Dwight to pay him max, and how many teams you think will go after Horford to pay him his max ? (25 per)

    When Batum, Rhyno, Barnes perhaps even Pau Gasol will get comparable contracts?

    The vast difference between Horford and Howard is that they are at different max slots and that Horford is much more versatile and fit for the modern game. And that's why his trade value is bigger than Howard's.
     
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