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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Blazers 2/10/2016

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    Howard is supposed to cover up defensive mistakes not Harden and harden does give them plenty of wide open shots I have no idea what games you're watching but you seem dead set on blaming everything on Harden for some unknown reason and I doubt anyone no matter how much sense they lay on you can bring you out of it. Just admit you hate Harden and deal because most of what you say makes no sense.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Until our star plays like a star, the role players are irrelevant
     
  3. RocketsFido

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    Can't see Morey not making big moves in next couple days with what the team is saying about themselves. The locker room is obviously not happy and even though JB knows it, he doesn't know how to fix it himself. He doesn't have that experience. Morey's the one who going to have to step in to adjust things or the team will blow itself up.
     
  4. Cashmoney

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    Learn to read. Everything I pointed out was not tied in to our matador defense on the perimeter.

    NOT boxing out
    NOT contesting shots
    WATCHING Myles Leonard for five hours line up a mid range shot and sinking it.

    I also said its hard for anyone to look good on D in this team, but Howard played poor defense. He was continuously out worked by Davis and refused to come out and meet Leonard.

    These are
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    I loved how Harden played last year, I hate how he's playing this year. That's how I would put it
     
  6. daywalker02

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    Good to know.

    Glad I do not believe that. Harden sure is a Top 10 player if folks value Offense so much but one season does not make an entire career.

    He had a regular season MVP kind of season and I wasn't really stunned by that.

    His D was average and he still turned the ball over.

    He made more clutch shots, flopped more. Role players were stepping up much more. Ok

    If that is his ceiling then he isn't really that great.
     
  7. Zergling

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    The Rockets were +11 when Dwight Howard was off the court. It's a broken f***ing record at this point. Please trade the guy for pieces and the team will magically improve. We just need the organization to acknowledge this.
     
  8. SF3isBack!!

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    Your posts are irrelevant, lol
     
  9. ibm

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    yeah, i'd be surprised if morey doesnt make some meaningful moves b4 the deadline... even only for his own job security...
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Well his D was average and he was arguably the best offensive player last year. That makes for top 3 type player.

    Obviously he wasn't at the level that Curry is this year but last year he carried a heavier burden and penetrated at a much higher rate than Curry
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Well that's true. Morey and Les won't read this
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Harden on the state of the Rockets: &quot;Were just not willing to help each other out. That's all it is. On both ends of the floor.&quot;</p>&mdash; Anne M. Peterson (@AnnieMPeterson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnieMPeterson/status/697676931475578880">February 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  13. daywalker02

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    Well he also did not conserve his energy and it all fizzled out when the playoffs came.

    I am sure he is right about being not able to sustain such a high level of competitive effort over a long time.
     
  14. PhiSlamma15

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    Harden doesn't make his teammates jack up bricks every night. If they made their shots Harden along with the rest of the team would make less mistakes, defense would improve drastically as a result of the ball going in the net versus rebounded and getting beat on fast breaks like tonight...less turnovers would be another result.

    I really don't see where Harden can take the blame for his teammates bricking. Howard and Harden scored darn near ALL THE POINTS in the 1st half of this game. Everyone else layed bricks that turned into fast break points. Common trend all season. So as we count Harden's turnovers I'd imagine he's got a bit of psychological TRAUMA going on knowing his teammates are probably gonna do something dumb or brick their shots more often than not when they get the ball in their hands. I'd get tired too running up and down the court brick after brick after brick on fast breaks if I was Harden. Curry doesn't have this problem because his teammates don't brick as much and they don't make a lotta dumb plays in a game. Kerr will most likely bench them just like Pops does with the Spurs players. JB just let's them keep on playing. I'd loose concentration too after all these games if I was Harden. Yes Harden's turnovers get on my nerves but at the same time I can see why some of those turnovers are turnovers and his teammates got something to do with some of them at the least.
     
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    I think it only fizzled out in the last game versus golden state. He was great up until that point
     
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    Players like those will go on scoring runs so that the starters aren't digging themselves out of a hole every night.


    Look what happens when our bench goes in....
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Bring those guys in and we still suck
     
  18. Ronkol

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    We are hovering around the 8th playoff spot. The regression is awful, but even though the entertainment factor is atrocious, JH/DH is enough to keep us at "Average".

    And though it's hard to pinpoint the trigger, a narrative is being unveiledd. Terrible summer, JH injured, rushed coaching change, complete collapse of core play structures (no viable system).

    I simply refuse to believe the whole supporting cast regressed physically over the summer, something mentally is seriously wrong. My eyes tell me something is acutely missing in our playbook: viable defensive and offensive schemes. The former is easy to see, but I think the latter is the reason why it's the JH/DH show. Those two manage to get going on class and talent alone. but the others need a good system to flourish.

    But I'm an idiot who really thought Lawson would get us to the next stage, so take my analysis with a truckload of salt :(
     
  19. Dhoward12

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    Didnt help the only offense Rockets could generate was Howard and Harden.
     
  20. DonKnock

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    We're full of streaky shooters and players that can't create for themselves.

    It can be fixed
     

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