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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Blazers 2/10/2016

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. rocketsmetalspd

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    JB "We are a Broken Team, Fragmented team" Not Morey's responsibility it's the coaches and players.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    They are role players. They need to be given opportunities not forced to create and cover others on defense because our star is still fat
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't know, maybe.

    Honestly its hard to tell when they are playing 4 on 5 on the defensive end
     
  4. el_locoteee

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    Adelman kill Yao.
    Adelman got us nothing.
    Adelman could never get it done in his career.
    Adelman brought his old players back and didn't play rookies.
    Adelman was not to much into defense.
     
  5. BackdoorHarden

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    And 2 of those 3 players are coach killa
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    I like JB's attitude, I hope he takes a job under Kerr or Pop or something and learns a bit more. Seems like a decent dude and taking over a team that has championship aspirations is a bit over his head as we can see. This was McHale's ship, he should have gone down with it, I think we can all agree with that now.
     
  7. Little Bit

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    Stupid JB talking about Harrell impacting the game but yet he takes him out. He doesn't even realize how dumb he sounds.
     
  8. desi tmac91

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    McHale was just a much better coach. This board wanted him gone so bad too.
     
  9. larsv8

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    Let me help you out with some math here chief, since you are completely clueless.

    Harden
    20 shots = 20 possessions
    14 FTs = 7 possessions
    11 assists = 11 possessions
    8 turnovers = 8 possessions

    8 turnovers / 46 possessions = 17% turnover ratio

    Ariza
    8 shots = 8 possessions
    2 FTs = 1 possession
    4 assists = 4 possessions
    3 turnovers = 3 possessions

    3 turnovers / 16 possessions = 18.75% turnover ratio

    Thornton
    6 shots = 6 possessions
    2 FTs = 1 possession
    1 assists = 1 possession
    3 turnovers = 3 possessions

    3 turnovers / 11 possessions = 27% turnover ratio

    This isn't rocket science.
     
  10. PhiSlamma15

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    true but those guys you list above play in a system that works and none of them brick 3's on a consistent basis like our role players do and they don't make a bunch of dumb plays. They make their layups, and rarely miss easy dunks like Capella, Ariza, Beverly,Brewer and so on..I'd trade our role players for those role players all day but I doubt they'd make the trades
     
  11. PhiSlamma15

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    hahahaha...I got your quote bookmarked! lmfao
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Completely nonresponsive argument. No one is saying those guys are better.

    The role players feed off the stars. The stars are supposed to lead and create for others. They carry the role players, that's how it works.

    Harden isn't doing that. He's doing nothing on defense, having massive turnover issues on offense, and doing nothing when he's off the ball.

    Again you've become allergic to advanced stats, but the plus minus, ORtg/drtg and win shares bear all this out if you would bother to look beyond a basic box score

    Until Harden returns to last year's form this is how this team will look
     
  13. PeterKingX

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    if I would have known his assistant would be the coach, in no way I wanted him gone.:mad:
     
  14. SF3isBack!!

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    The role players are the total problem. Some people around here want Harden and Howard to be Hakeem and Jordan the absolute best at their positions ever, lol. No our role players are awful and other teams crowd in on Harden and foul Dwight because they know no one else can do ****.
     
  15. PeterKingX

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    headless chicken
     
  16. SF3isBack!!

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    Just because JB is bad doesn't make Mchale good. They are much the same.
     
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    Trust me, he was pathetic on D. It's too easy to point fingers at Harden (because he is bad on D, without a doubt this year), but if you actually observe the other guys on the floor, it's clear the effort is not there.

    There were many times when Howard just watched Ed Davis grab the offensive board and he didn't bother to even challenge put backs all night. He got one block and aside from the easier rebounds he looked far too disinterested on defense.

    Don't get me wrong, it's hard for anyone to look good on D in this scheme but Howard is not playing good defense. He had zero impact tomight on defense. Next game we play (if he's still with us), pay attention to him.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Rhetoric nonsense as usual.

    Roleplayers play roles, play defense, rebound, and hit open shots. They are not producing. This is NOT someone else's fault.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    If Harden and Howard aren't superstars then this needs to be blown up.

    The whole philosophy of this team is that Harden and Howard are true superstars, not "good players who need a lot of help"
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Stats are rhetoric?

    It's not the role players fault Harden plays no defense, is still fat, has turnover issues, and has seen significant declines in advanced metrics
     

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