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2016 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. Nook

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    Thank God that Law didn't take the Astros job offer...... he has really started to lose his mind.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    I suspect he more or less nailed the bottom ten teams.
     
  3. Nook

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    Nailing the absolute worse isn't really that hard. It isn't that hard to know that the Angels are really low on talent.
     
  4. Joe Joe

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    Nailing the worst means that none of the worst are rated the best. It also means none of the best are rated the worst. Considering the high variance in prospects, that's probably good enough to say he isn't crazy. Astros, Rays, and A's are the only teams that jumped out as me at being lower that I would expect based on what they have in AAA/AA/elite lower level talent.
     
  5. Nook

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    Anyone that follows baseball somewhat closely can tell you the bottom 8-10 teams as far as farm systems are concerned.

    Is Law literally crazy? No, but he has not been as accurate the last few years and has spoken in even more absolute terms.

    This is coming from someone that likes Law and has been lucky enough to meet him a few times (he was very kind).

    I suspect his interests outside of baseball have hurt as well...
     
  6. Joe Joe

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    Most observers of baseball know that the team prospect lists aren't very accurate after the top 5 or so guys per team. Judging a farm in which most of its value is not judged very accurately is going to induce huge variance. In other words, huge error. Outside identifying the barren farms and the teams like the Dodgers, these guys aren't very accurate. A team ranked 3rd on one lists can easily be 15 on another as the difference between the actual value of these farms is going to be decided by guys that outperform and underperform expectations.

    Which teams, not counting Astros, do you think he is most inaccurate on?
     
  7. Rockets12

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    I'm not who you asked, but honestly I think aside from the Astros being too low, I would say the Nationals Red Sox Rangers and Rockies are too low. Cubs too high. Law probably has his reasons though, so meh
     
  8. raining threes

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    Agreed

    What are his outside interests?
     
  9. SWTsig

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    wrong thread.
     
  10. Rockets12

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    I'm surprised he has Bregman so much higher than Reed. I guess that's mostly because of positional value or has he indicated in the past he thinks pretty highly of Bregman (or I guess lowly of Reed despite his stats)?
     
  12. Nick

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    What has Bregman done to not be ranked high?

    Consensus high first round pick... faired well in his first post-draft season (where guys typically can be worn out after already having played a full college season... plus playoffs in his case)... and then you do have the positional considerations/versatility factor that may be Bregman's best "skill" in terms of why he could be in the majors rather quickly.
     
  13. RunninRaven

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    I never said Bregman shouldn't be high, just that I thought he would be behind AJ Reed. The two are not mutually exclusive.
     
  14. Nick

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    Gotcha...

    I guess you would have to consider where Reed was last year.

    Sometimes, its hard to bump somebody up significantly in just one year... on the same token, it seems hard to knock somebody down (or kick somebody off the list entirely) in one year too, hence why Appel is still on nearly every list as well.

    I'd say the only negatives for Reed are his position and him spending the majority of the season at Lancaster... even though his numbers didn't really go down that much at Corpus.
     
  15. J.R.

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    1. Corey Seager
    2. Byron Buxton
    3. Lucas Giolito
    4. J.P. Crawford
    5. Julio Urias
    6. Tyler Glasnow
    7. Rafael Devers
    8. Alex Reyes
    9. Nomar Mazara
    10. Orlando Arcia
    11. Brendan Rodgers
    12. Joey Gallo
    13. Dansby Swanson
    14. Blake Snell
    15. Gleyber Torres
    16. Austin Meadows
    17. Yoan Moncada
    18. Andrew Benintendi
    19. Alex Bregman
    20. Ozhaino Albies
    21. Bradley Zimmer
    22. Franklin Barreto
    23. Kevin Newman
    24. Braden Shipley
    25. Manuel Margot
    26. Jose O. Berrios
    27. Willson Contreras
    28. Trea Turner
    29. Dominic Smith
    30. Sean Newcomb
    31. Robert Stephenson
    32. Lewis Brinson
    33. Max Kepler
    34. Javier Guerra
    35. Taylor Guerrieri
    36. Aaron Judge
    37. Steven Matz
    38. Anderson Espinoza
    39. Aaron Blair
    40. Francis Martes
    41. Jesse Winker
    42. Amed Rosario
    43. Kolby Allard
    44. A.J. Reed
    45. Tim Anderson
    46. Brett Phillips
    47. Ian Happ
    48. Michael Fulmer
    49. Victor Robles
    50. Dillon Tate
    51. Alex Verdugo
    52. Anthony Alford
    53. Kohl Stewart
    54. Cody Reed
    55. Jorge Mateo
    56. Josh Bell
    57. Gary Sanchez
    58. David Dahl
    59. Sean Manea
    60. Jose De Leon
    61. Tyler Jay
    62. Ryan McMahon
    63. Jake Thompson
    64. Brent Honeywell
    65. Christian Arroyo
    66. Jorge Polanco
    67. Kyle Tucker
    68. Mark Appel
    69. Billy McKinney
    70. Trent Clark
    71. Grant Holmes
    72. Clint Frazier
    73. Raul Mondesi
    74. Nick Williams
    75. Jorge Lopez
    76. Marco Gonzales
    77. Yusniel Diaz
    78. Raimel Tapia
    79. Luis Ortiz
    80. Touki Toussaint
    81. Chance Sisco
    82. Jorge Alfaro
    83. Jack Flaherty
    84. Archie Bradley
    85. Daniel Robertson
    86. Amir Garrett
    87. James Kaprielian
    88. Albert Almora
    89. Gavin Cecchini
    90. Jeff Hoffman
    91. Dylan Cease
    92. Cody Bellinger
    93. Bobby Bradley
    94. Kyle Zimmer
    95. Alex Jackson
    96. Max Fried
    97. Tyler Kolek
    98. Nick Gordon
    99. Brady Aiken
    100. Hunter Harvey
     
  16. tellitlikeitis

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    Baseball America's Top 100 prospects list comes out today, and they've already released the back half of the list. The top 50 will be revealed at 8:00 Central on MLB Network.

    61. Kyle Tucker
    74. Daz Cameron
    83. Joe Musgrove
    91. David Paulino
     
  17. sealclubber1016

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    Damn, we're gonna have 7?

    Nice
     
  18. juicystream

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    Bregman, Reed, & Martes all in the top 50 (same as MLB.com). BA is definitely the most bullish on us as Musgrove & Paulino didn't make BP, MLB, or Law's list, and Daz didn't make Law's list.

    Personally, I don't see Paulino as a top 100 guy (he had a great season, but it was really only half of one). I think Musgrove earned it with his back-to-back excellent seasons despite his seemingly lower ceiling than those other guys.
     
  19. CisBuds4U

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    also the organizational rankings were posted:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/organization-talent-rankings-list/

    The Astros are surprisingly hight at #2 (Vs #17 by ESPN) and the Cubs are ranked here at #20...pretty low IMO.

    1. LA Dodgers
    2. Houston Astros
    3. Atlanta Braves
    4. Boston Red Sox
    5. Washington Nationals
    6. Colorado Rockies
    7. Texas Rangers.
    8. Philadelphia Phillies
    9. Milwaukee Brewers
    10.Minnesota Twins
    11.Pittsburgh Pirates
    12.Cincinnati Reds
    13.Tampa Bay Rays
    14.St. Louis Cardinals
    15.NY Mets
    16. Cleveland Indians
    17.New York Yankees
    18.Oakland Athletics
    19.SF Giants
    20.Chicago Cubs
    21.KC Royals
    22.AZ Diamondbacks
    23.Chicago White Sox
    24.Toronto Blue Jays
    25.SD Padres
    26.Detroit Tigers
    27.Baltimore Orioles
    28.Miami Marlins
    30. LA Angels
     
  20. J.R.

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    11. Reed
    20. Martes
    42. Bregman
     

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