New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

The fact that you,of all posters on this site, have Dr. King's words in your signature is blatantly offensive. Are you kidding me?

 

So you're saying that there's no evidence of any wrongdoing? There's nothing wrong with having a private server, there's nothing wrong with using a private server, there's only something wrong with putting classified information on a private server or using a private server to send or receive classified information. Literally anyone who has ever been approved to handle classified information knows that.

If Hillary had been less incompetent maybe she would have had the servers properly destroyed or wiped to prevent the evidence of her crimes from being discovered. That didn't happen, so now we're talking about what was discovered.

So basically this whole ordeal boils down to a mix of someone flagrantly breaking the law and being too incompetent to hide that fact.

 

not surprised that all you can do is resort to personal insults. sigh.

I've always been a huge fan of Dr King.

 

I'm saying that using a non-government server isn't exactly a new development, the difference being that Clinton chose transparency while Bush chose destruction. I know which I trust more, I suspect partisanship explains your choice.

 

Exactly. And lied about it, constantly. Her reason for doing so is false, her statements about no classified information on it is false, her claims the information were overclassified is false....pretty much every word she has ever uttered on this has been a lie. Is someone being an habitual liar, who is all about doing everything in secrecy, a valid argument to make against their being a decent candidate for President of the United States? I would think so.

 

I'm going to wait. I have no affection for Clinton, and believe she's definitely capable of skirting the law.

However the Republicans have been crying wolf for so long that I'm not sure whether I can trust the news reports.

From what I've done, the FBI is still going through emails.

Certainly some have been retroactively classified.

That doesn't really matter. What matters if they were actually classified at the time.

So far we don't really know that, as far as I can tell.

I'll let the FBI finish going through the emails and then decide based on their final report.

Talk about what would happen if the FBI recommends an indictment isn't a bridge we've even come to at this point. They may recommend one, or they may not.

I have no problem and won't be disappointed if she is indicted. But I'm not going to jump the gun on it.

 

He was pretty much a socialist/communist.

 

This is a good post from FranchiseBlade. He is waiting until the facts are on the table. I can respect that.

The one problem I have is that he has been duped by the liberal talking point that's been all over the media - "What matters if they were actually classified at the time." I disagree with that. She shouldn't be putting information on an unsecured server that could later be deemed classified. That is irresponsibly providing our enemies access to our state secrets.

 

I don't watch media, but I get the sense that all points (what matters is if they were actually classified AND unsecured server AND providing enemies access to our state secrets) are from the liberal low knowledge media.

You are duped by the liberal media.

How about this. We said fk you media and wait for official reports. That way, we aren't duped.

 

There's nothing wrong with using a non-government server.....so long as you aren't sending anything classified. Also, Clinton didn't "choose transparency", she just did a piss poor job of wiping the server and the FBI was able to recover what she tried to have deleted.

As to the last part, if you trust either, you are a fool.

 

Important to note that something being "retroactively classified" doesn't mean that it wasn't classified when it was sent, it can mean that it should have been classified all along or that classification was stripped from it.

That said, there's maybe a small chance that none of the information was classified at the time.....an incredibly small chance given that some of the emails were deemed so classified as to having the entire email be not available for release.

If it ends up that none of the information in the emails were classified at the time they were sent, then she committed no crime, she just made really poor choices when given a position of power. That's not illegal in this case, so there's some small hope for those who are hardcore Hillary supporters. Of course, that's like saying that there is some small chance that the world will end before tomorrow...you should still probably be prepared to go to work.

 

She did choose to provide the opportunity to be transparent with hackers.

 

I agree with you. Whether it was classified at the time might matter for criminal liability, but doesn't matter for state security.

And, I don't agree with this. There is definitely something wrong with using a non-governmental server for government business. I don't use private email for my job, nor do I use my company email for my personal affairs. This is very basic stuff. They didn't have an official rule about it at the time, ok, but it's the 'right' way to be conducting business.

 

Yeah I should have said "There's nothing illegal" rather than "There's nothing wrong", it shows very bad judgement to do official government business on a non-government server even if there is no classified information involved. If there's classified information involved, it becomes illegal.

 

Breathe in and out - don't just hold your breath.

 

Don't get it twisted, I'm not holding my breath for the Obama Justice Department to do the right thing, I'm saying what SHOULD happen based on the facts. We all know that some place politics over the law and it wouldn't shock me if this president goes that route.

That said, I think until they show that they are unwilling to do their job based on political considerations, they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

 

This is the sort of thing a person would get fired for at a university, much less the State Department. The fact that the far-right has thrown everything at her hoping something would stick does not excuse it. Let the FBI do their investigation and let them prosecute (or not) depending on their recommendations.

 

folx at the Clinton's official network starting to get nervous.

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Agreed. The right has cried wolf too many times and now people have tuned them out.