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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. MojoMan

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    So at the beginning of this "phony scandal," Hillary insisted that there was no classified information on her home server.

    And then a series of lies and conflicting statements as more information was discovered and revealed publicly.

    Now, she is insisting that the information on her home server has been "overclassified."

    That is quite a "narrative" journey there, to say the least.
     
  2. larsv8

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    And still no one really cares.

    Bottom line is she sent some emails. BFD.
     
  3. Commodore

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    the FBI does
     
  4. Amiga

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    So in the beg some were yes. Now some are hell yeah. But at the end, ..... TBD ......

    Usually it ends in a big letdown as so many have in the past.
     
  5. MojoMan

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    The FBI is apparently "Super-pissed off" at this sort of White House meddling in their investigation. And who can blame them.

    The FBI has publicly announce that they are not briefing either Barack Obama or Loretta Lynch on the progress of this investigation because of concerns about a clear appearance of a conflict of interest by these two. A concern which is confirmed as legitimate by statements such as the one by Josh Earnst above. Earnst has not been briefed on this either.

    This is entirely inappropriate conduct by Obama and his gang. It is pure meddling spin and not one other thing.

    If they were not concerned about this, they would not be trying to interfere in this investigation. And this is not the first time they have tried to do this, or have been called out for doing it, either.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    However this resolves, I do think it's sad for the country that this is, in many ways, the real fight for the presidency. Not a detailed and inspired set of police proposals springing from differing and maybe even inspiring visions. But a **** show on one side of the aisle that knows their only hope in not having the other side's meh candidate elected is catching her in some sort of office transgression.

    That's it. The fervor we all sense is because this is the real gambit for who wins the whitehouse. Which oligarch's crony will grace the top of the oligarchy.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Great band name.
     
  8. Granville

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    Fixed the bolded part for you. No thanks required.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Black metal for sure.

    And Granville, of course, fill it in as you like. But if you see a compelling vision for our nation's future anywhere, let me know!
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Bottom line is she regularly committed felonies while serving as Secretary of State and put the national security of the US at risk just so she could prevent transparency....and her best defense is that she was incompetent instead of corrupt.

    I'm sure Hillary supporters don't care, she could murder someone on TV and those people would spout off about how it was a vast right wing conspiracy to besmirch her good name and that it was no big deal. No one cares about those people, they aren't rational people when it comes to her.

    What matters is that there is a chance that the Obama justice department will actually do their job, and if they do, Hillary won't be eligible to be president due to her crimes. This really shouldn't be partisan, but I guess Hillary supporters just can't help themselves.
     
  11. Codman

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    There's nothing to see. Give it up.

    Focus on the baggage that your own party continues to bring to the table. It's down to Trump or Cruz to save the Republicans. Now, that's a shame.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    That's blatantly false though. I know you are hoping that you can just keep saying that and it'll make it true, but she really did habitually break the law while Secretary of State. It's really not a partisan issue, it's a criminal issue.

    It really is sad how many people are blinded by politics.
     
  13. Cohete Rojo

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    Here we go again. When was she charged with a felony? Who was charged with a felony?
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    Keep holding out hope that the indictment won't ever come down kiddo, but it's clear she broke the law even before she's officially charged.

    I know to you the only thing that matters is the politics behind this issue, which is sad, but it's pretty straightforward to anyone that isn't a partisan hack.

    There was clearly classified information on her private server, which is illegal. She told someone to remove classification markings and send a document through an unsecured method, which is illegal. Let's not OJ this BS.
     
  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Why aren't they going after Dick Cheney?
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I assume you are talking about the Valerie Plame situation, Scooter Libby was indicted and convicted over that. As to Cheney, they DID go after him, there just wasn't any actual evidence of his involvement and Libby sort of fell on the sword for him....I also doubt either Libby or Cheney are ever going to run for president so it's not really a problem now is it?
     
  17. Codman

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    Nobody is "holding out hope" for anything because there's nothing there. You seem to be following your own wording. There's nothing "clear" that she broke the law, nor was there "clearly classified information on her private server..." These are things that have not been proven, nor will they. This seems to be the only "dirt" that Republicans are holding on to for dear life. It would be much easier to accept that Hillary isn't going anywhere, and this entire "email controversy" isn't going to show anything damning.

    You write as though you were in the room when all of the alleged illegal activity took place. Sure, you can read countless editorials claiming the same bit, but there is no evidence to support what you, well, hope for Hillary. I'm not even close to being her biggest fan, but even if this were a scumbag like Cruz, I couldn't call him a criminal with a lack of evidence or an indictment.

    If she is found guilty of what you want her to be guilty of, I'll be the first to eat crow. But, we both know it's not happening.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Maybe you actually think that, but it's pretty clear that you have no experience with handling classified information if you aren't just being partisan here hoping against hope that a candidate you support is innocent.

    Also, you seem to think that this is something that "Republicans" are doing, it's not, it's something that the FBI is doing because it is a criminal issue, not a political issue.

    If this were anyone else, I'd still be calling them a criminal for housing classified information on private servers....you know why? Because it's illegal. The sad thing is that you'd probably allow yourself to admit that it was illegal if it were someone else.

    You can keep spouting the daily talking points, saying that there wasn't classified information on the server, but that fact has already been established. In fact, there are things so classified that they won't release any part of some of them.

    As to her being found guilty, it doesn't really matter. OJ wasn't found guilty but most people are to the point now where they can finally admit to themselves that he really did kill those two people even though he wasn't found guilty of it even if they stubbornly refused to admit it when it was going on. This is really no different.
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, I think this was in reference to the millions (multiple millions) of emails which got deleted from the RNC maintained server Bush and Cheney used. We won't ever know if any of that was classified.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    See Dr King's quote in my sig.

    You seem to have trouble distinguishing what you "hope to be true" vs. thinking things through.
     

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