If I was a citizen I'd vote for him for sure but it'll be at least a year till my citizenship process is completed. Hillary is repulsive to me and the republican candidates are harmful for the country. Best would be someone like Bloomberg. Fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
This is great - but why is it different for, say, bankers or CEOs or healthcare providers or wealthy people or whomever else doesn't fit in Bernie's vision? With those policies, they are not part of the "consensus", while in Hillary's they are and you try to find consensus. It's the same concept, just with different groups of people.
Shaun KingVerified account @ShaunKing While @BernieSanders called for the end of private prisons, Hillary was receiving money from their lobbyists (during this campaign
Why does this sum up his campaign? Because he support immigration reform? Because he supports the working class, and they aren't all legal? Because he doesn't like the inhumane conditions for millions of illegal agriculture workers?
I'm pessimistic right now, but I feel like O'Malley's voters will get on the bernie bandwagon and that might swing things his way in iowa. An Elizabeth Warren endorsement of Bernie could end Hillary's campaign right now. Just sayin.
Actually, most of us in D&D make over $4 million a year and that's why we definitely don't like Bernie.
That's what I don't get, how is there such thing as a broke person who supports republicans? Or at least a broke person who supports republicans that truly pays attention to the politics? I guess ite all about the gun/border control and war that sells them? Do they really believe giving tax cuts to big business is better for the middle class? It may be economically sound for the wealthy, but what influences an average paid worker to support that? I remember hearing in the Republican debate " we will give big corporations and businesses more tax cuts to help business which will move the economy " or something along those lines, does that really the work class?
For starters, broke people are unlikely to pay attention to politics, because they are more worried about surviving day-to-day. Beyond that, there are legitimate philosophical reasons to support a policy structure even if hasn't worked out for you - not everyone just votes their self-interest.
You see, what the republicans and most democrats these days promote is a religion not a policy and it doesn't require a lot of logic to follow a religion. There are broke people following republicans because they worship the policies associated with the symbols they already worship. They believe that if the government exits the market, they will achieve some sort of fair reward for their work which has been lacking all along. The other issue is that the most highly funded candidates tend to give the impression that anything outside establishment politics will lead to chaos and anarchy. People have mortgages, student debt, kids, bills, loans, etc. They don't have time to research politics all day everyday so even the hint that chaos is a possibility leads them to make the more known choice and there is nothing more known in the US than a clean shaven white christian caucasian male speaking with an ultra 'Merican accent wearing a suit standing in front of a flag. It's the same principle that leads governments to frighten their own people. When you frighten people a little or a lot, they head towards the most known ideas and entities. Everything else becomes an external threat and hate-worthy. Hillary for example frightening Americans into thinking Bernie is going to show up, tear up the affordable care act and THEN start working on a new plan lol. Many people will flock to her having remembered a lifetime of even ****tier insurance than they currently have. Theoretically this strategy is identical to what any terrorist like Hitler or OBL would use. Create a big bad monster and claim to have the only solution. To add to this, PTSD and TBI are major major issues within the voter segment of the population which makes behavior even more chaotic especially given how relatively little treatment these things receive in the US.
Well, this is always a great way to win votes during a campaign. LOL I have to respect Bernie though. I disagree with him about pretty much everything. But at least he generally honest about this stuff, unlike many other politicians, and especially unlike the pathological liar he is running against in the primary.
Well, yea. How else are you going to pay for universal healthcare? Borrow money? I think liberal understand this quite well and any attack from Clinton on this wouldn't work.
Bernie is making the same mistake that Obama did on this issue. Focusing on the "universal coverage" part doesn't work because everyone who already has their healthcare paid for by their employer doesn't see a new benefit and doesn't immediately see any cost savings (the employer is not going to just start paying them an extra $10k per year or whatever). And that segment is something like 80% of the population. For them, it's just a tax increase on them to help other people. Obama made the same mistake in promoting his health care reform - you have to focus on the tangible benefits that everyone sees instead of anything relating to universal coverage.
The amount of support that this assclown is getting is mind boggling. On the same token, the amount that the Trumpassclown is getting is mind boggling. r****ds on both sides of the spectrum.
You do have a point about folks who are relatively self centered and not real thoughtful. However, I think you are mistaken that 80% of the population has health insurance paid for by their employers that has no deductibles, co-pays and the coverage that Bernie proposes. Of course there are the insurance companies, politicians like Hillary that they fund and the contented moderates who are unaware or try to disguise the benefits to many and the society as a whole by moving to a system that saves trillions which could be used for productive pursuits rather than executive profits, needless marketing and paperwork.
Good point. I don't know the full details of his plan but I thought the increase is mostly on the employer side and those making above 250k.
I will give Sanders a lot of credit for being honest about that he will be planning to raise taxes a lot to implement his plan but if he is being honest he might as well also admit that this plan will be DOA in Congress. The last politician who came out with such a straight forward admission was Walter Mondale and living in Minnesota am frequently reminded of how what happened to Walter Mondale.
