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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    I'm completely fine with investigating previous Secretaries of State to see if they broke the law like Hillary did. If it is found out that they did, they should be indicted for it just like Hillary probably will be and they should be barred from ever holding public office or working for the government again.

    Mishandling classified information is not a joke.
     
  2. B-Bob

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    I've been digging around a bit and I can't find any valid sources saying that Powell or Rice had their own servers. Just a lot of left-leaning saying they did and right-leaning saying in fact no they didn't.

    I have found some articles about Powell's emails, and they are all gone. He has said it himself. He didn't save anything or print anything, and it's just all gone.

    Interesting for a SOS who obeyed orders and gave talks on WMDs, but whatever.

    I think the old saw that "others did it" (that I really believed before I started digging more) may not in fact hold water. It does appear to be true that Clinton used email a LOT (order of magnitude) more than her predecessors. Probably helped her total work output but was probably not very smart, in retrospect.
     
  3. MojoMan

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    Exactly correct. And I am sure that if the FBI felt like they had any legitimate cause to be investigating those situations, they would be doing so, or perhaps they have done so and found nothing that warranted recommending charges.

    In any case, by all means the law should be enforced against former SOS's and also to Hillary Clinton.
     
  4. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Wow. <a href="https://t.co/CpdBofVkJJ" title="http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/">nypost.com/2016/01/24/hil…</a> <a href="https://t.co/UDM2wnX74h" title="http://twitter.com/rorycooper/status/691346087291064320/photo/1">pic.twitter.com/UDM2wnX74h</a></p>&mdash; Rory Cooper (@rorycooper) <a href="https://twitter.com/rorycooper/status/691346087291064320" data-datetime="2016-01-24T19:45:26+00:00">January 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    It seems likely that is what happened, which is super illegal.
     
  6. Mathloom

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    Can't we all just agree that deep down we know she did it with intent and nothing is going to happen to her?
     
  7. Hakeemtheking

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    This is clearly more important than thousands of people, including an estimate of 9,000 children, drinking and bathing in poisoned water.

    In a year from now, let's see how many congressional hearings each issue will draw.
     
  8. MojoMan

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    And it is important to draw this distinction, because only one issue can be important at any one time, which effectively puts Hillary Clinton in the clear.

    {sarcasm}
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not sure that's the case though. I think an indictment is absolutely coming in the near future and her former staffers would roll over on her in a heartbeat if they are facing over a thousand counts of mishandling classified information.
     
  10. Granville

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    Can't we all just agree that she is an untrustworthy candidate for the position of President of the United States? She has been dishonest many times during this investigation.
     
  11. Cohete Rojo

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    Agree, but no criminal charges have been brought against her. That's quite significant to me. The republican investigation has had plenty of shenanigans. To me, Mrs. Clinton has played the game better than they have to this point.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    By "The Republican investigation" you mean "The FBI investigation" right? This really isn't a partisan thing, it's a criminal thing.
     
  13. Granville

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    The Clintons have been playing games with the truth since Bill turned the Oval Office in to a jack shack.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    You insist on this flawed logic. As others have mentioned, this has nothing to do with Republicans. Stop with the ignorance.

    Every few days, more allegations are being made. The investigation must be complete before charges can be filed.
     
  15. Cohete Rojo

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    The republican investigation has been ongoing for over 2 years. There were other investigations before the republican investigation. So don't act like the recent FBI investigation is the focal piece. The republicans' very own Kevin McCarthy stated that the latest congressional investigation is pure politics.

    Do republicans really need three strikes to show that they've already stuck out?
     
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    Clinton -- who has command of the political game as the most cynical, entrenched Republicans -- still should have been much more careful about things any mishap was going to be pounced upon by Republicans (Whitewater anyone?) to incite public scandal to destroy her future candidacy. And if they didn't find anything, they would Swiftboat her by manufacturing it. In a way, her server setup was just handing the Republicans the just the inch they needed to take things a full mile.
     
  17. JeffB

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    Which of these candidates is trustworthy? This is one of the worst fields I have ever witnessed. Sheer lunacy, cynicism, elitism, and incompetence wrapped in fear mongering and dog whistling. It is an international embarassment.
     
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  18. Granville

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    Not going to argue that it's a weak field on both sides. I think she broke the law though.
     
  19. Commodore

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    http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/25/how-hillary-got-classified-information-onto-her-private-email/

     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I have not really dug around much. But I don't see how owning the server makes Clinton's document handling any worse. It is probably the more responsible way to mishandle documents. If Powell was using commercial email but didn't own the server, that means Google might have a copy of all his top-secret emails.
     

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