The establishment is turning on Cruz. Ted Cruz's no-good, very bad day http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/ted-cruz-iowa-terry-branstad/index.html
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Donald Trump appears to be proudly aligning himself with the establishment. Shocker. Ted Cruz: Trump "Is Publicly Bragging About How Big Establishment Players Are Getting Behind Him" Honestly though, when a noteworthy member of the establishment who currently has skin in the game publicly associates themselves with Trump, that is when it will be time to start taking this assertion seriously.
The way Cruz is framing this argument is not going to work at all. Trump's entire appeal has been as an outsider. Cruz is just going to look foolish with this line of reasoning. The idea that the establishment would get behind Cruz at some point is pure fantasy. No one likes Ted Cruz. It's going to be a hard thing to overcome.
Of course the harder thing for him to overcome is the fact that he's not eligible to be president in the first place.
Bob Dole rips Ted Cruz: GOP would suffer “cataclysmic,” “wholesale losses” if he wins nomination Ouch...
You are making me all tingly in my nether regions. Hopefully you are correct on something for a change. :grin:
He would know about losing that is for sure. And the fact that he wants to promote Trump as someone the Republican establishment crony capitalism crowd can "cut deals" with should surprise nobody, as Bob Dole was as establishment as they come. If you want business as usual and more of the same, steady as she goes, then you will want to do what Bob Dole recommends.
Bob Dole's one comment stands, absent his predictions of cataclysm: very few in Congress like Cruz, and so we cannot figure out how he would work with Congress. Cruz supporters just attack the messengers of this, but I have yet to see the basic logic refuted.
Their complaint with Cruz is not his policies, such as immigration or Obamacare. Their complain is his practice of actually fulfilling his campaign promises and pushing to accomplish the priorities his constituents elected him to pursue, even when nobody else is doing it. It makes them look bad. Cruz's tactics bother them, but once he is in office, they would be able to agree on a lot. They would disagree on the crony capitalism, which no doubt Congress will want to continue unabated and Cruz would not. Other than that, what large and substantial points of disagreement do you believe that the establishment Republicans have on Cruz's policy initiatives, such as Obamacare and immigration?
You are underestimating the hatred everyone has for Ted Cruz in Washington. Whether they agree or not, they will not give Ted Cruz a victory. If he were to somehow win the presidency, D.C. would chew him up and spit him out.
We'll see. I think you are discounting the primal loathing of Donald Trump, not just among most Republican establishment types, but also among the larger American electorate and internationally as well. Donald Trump has made quite an international reputation for himself during this campaign, and to suggest that he may well be the most passionately loathed politician in the world right now on an international basis is probably right or at least pretty close to right. When Republican establishment officeholders start coming out and publicly associating themselves with Trump, then it will be time to start taking this sort of speculative media pot-stirring seriously. Until then, I hope you will understand if I remain skeptical and I continue to keep my powder dry on this for the time being.
It's possible, but the latest news isn't looking good. His closest working colleagues (Senate republicans) seem to be lining up against him. http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/ted-cruz-senate-revolt/index.html At least five other senate republicans (not ones running for POTUS) speak out against Cruz in this new piece. Even his fellow Texas senator says he worries about Cruz's effects on congressional races for republicans. They say he's been "burning bridges" for too long. None of that nullifies what you're saying. It's possible they would work with a president Cruz. But he really has to thread a political needle now, and it's clear he would start off on awkward footing.
All of this just shows that Rubio will be the eventual Republican nominee. Trump is a joke and Cruz is ineligible and unliked. Rubio is the establishment candidate.
Which makes it so weird that the establishment GOP guys haven't fully thrown their weight behind him. Like, all if it, yesterday. Why the hesitation? In terms of actually winning the general, Rubio has the best shot of the group.
Cruz suffers from the fact that virtually anyone who has actually worked or know him dislikes him intensely. The GOP establishment may see Cruz as an obstacle in the way of their desire to have Jeb try to eliminate Trump. Rubio can be trashed simply by the two or three billionaires who bankroll telling him it is obver. Or as in the Art of the Deal, the establishment may have done a deal with Trump, just like Trump obviously did with Sarah Palin. The establishment may realize that the days of getting their white working class supporter to vote for them on the basis of race and abortion are over and better to enlist Trump who still appeals to some of them, even though his style is a bit overblown for them. After all his tax plan not surprisingly is one billionaires got to love. Wonderful shadenfreude as the ignorant low info army the GOP establishment has cultivated to essentially vote for their tax breaks and trickle up turns on the establishment.
In the current RCP poll average for NH, Rubio is currently in fourth place behind Trump, Kasich and Cruz, in that order. If Rubio finishes fourth in NH, he is going to be taking an eight count at that point. Meanwhile, Kasich is not well positioned to make a real race of this after NH. This is just not shaping up to be a very good year for establishment Republican candidates at all.
Unless you are an imbecile, you will be able to see right away that this scenario is relevant to Ted Cruz's campaign activities. I know exactly what "corporate welfare" means. What Cruz did goes far beyond that, and is far, far worse.
Yeah but that's assuming that people actually vote for Trump, which I doubt and Cruz's rank is irrelevant given that he's not eligible to be president. Coming in behind Kasich isn't that big a deal since as you said, he's not well positioned to matter in the other races.
