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Big 12 Expansion rumors

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by tinman, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. tinman

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    What's your take on why it's not filling up on attendance?
     
  2. shastarocket

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    The student section shows up (the tickets are free and some teachers even incentivize attendance), but the alumni need to do a better job.

    One major change that I've seen is that casual fans are getting excited. That's what's important. The tickets are cheap and parking isn't bad.

    Coogs should be a preseason top 25 team and even a loss to a likely top 10 OU team won't hurt too bad. No reason why next season shouldn't have better attendance numbers.

    Basketball? Now that's a totally different story...
     
  3. Indaface

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    As a Baylor fan I would like to see UofH added to the big 12 but my gut is telling me they are wanting to add teams closer to WVA that way they don't have to screw up the divisions regionally by adding UofH.

    Big 12 north
    KU
    KST
    WVA
    ISU
    A team
    B team

    Big 12 south
    TCU
    OU
    UT
    Tech
    Baylor
    OKST
     
  4. Tenchi

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    Its on wikipedia. I'm referring to his bias because he is a UT grad. Scan all of the articles he wrote for TM. He tends to write more about UT than any other school. His dad was also a professor there. He walked 200 miles of Houston streets on a dozen trips? At what time period did he do this and how many of those streets does he still go through regularly? I think the article about Houston is cool but when it comes to UH the school what does he really know if its no a topic that he writes about? He moved to Houston during UH's down years and I doubt he heads back to that area.
     
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  5. tinman

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    A music writer can't like Sports?
     
  6. Tenchi

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    I had edited it while you were responding. When people reference opinion blogs like that it just reminds me of this new style of journalism where people reference tweets from random people. It seems more common now in both news and internet media and I think who the f is this person and why are they referencing them.
     
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    He's been a writer in Houston since 2001 and spent 11 years at the Houston Press. Sounds Legit to me.

    If he had started 2 years early, he would be like us.. 99ers

     
  8. gucci888

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    Finding a regional partner for WVU will be a pretty big factor which is part of the reason why Cincinnati and UConn are supposedly at the top of the list.
     
  9. peleincubus

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    those would be 2 very lopsided divisions as far as football.
     
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    Only BCS games had higher viewership and not a single Texas school was close. Very impressive... there are a lot of non-alumni in Houston that will support UH if they play well.
     
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    Imagine the numbers if it had been a prime time game or a BCS game.
     
  14. gucci888

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    Ya dividing the conference into competitive divisions will be tough without splitting up the Texas teams or splitting out OU/OK St. into the north division. Neither really makes sense from a geographic or historical standpoint though. This will be the case regardless of who we add really.

    Basketball would be a lot of fun though.
     
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    The Pac 12 split California teams. I don't think it's a big deal. I think you would have to form them based on these pairings which I don't think you can split up

    Texas-OU-Ok St
    Kansas-Kansas St
    TCU-Baylor
    West Virginia-Eastern Team A, Eastern Team B

    If you feel like Texas Tech needs to be included with Texas then you could make west and east divisions with Texas, Tech, OU, Ok St, Kansas, Kansas St in the west and everyone else in the east. That feels like a much more balanced conference. However, if they add the New York market with Connecticut and Ohio with Cincinnati then they might want Texas and OU in those markets every year instead of every other year. The only way to do that is if Tech isn't paired with UT. Restoring the old Big 12 south is severely unbalanced.

    If the big 12 adds two eastern teams like Connecticut, Cincy, Memphsis etc
    West
    Texas
    Texas Tech
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    Kansas
    Kansas St

    East
    TCU
    Baylor
    Iowa St
    West Virginia
    East Team B
    East Team B

    ALTERNATE VERSION
    West
    Texas Tech
    TCU
    Baylor
    Kansas
    Kansas St
    Iowa St

    East
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    Texas
    West Virginia
    East Team A
    East Team B


    If the big 12 adds one eastern team like Connecticut, Cincy, Memphsis etc and a western team like BYU
    West
    Texas
    Texas Tech
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    Iowa St
    Western Team


    East
    TCU
    Baylor
    Kansas
    Kansas St
    West Virginia
    Eastern Team

    ALTERNATE VERSION
    West
    TCU
    Baylor
    Kansas
    Kansas St
    Iowa St
    Western Team

    East
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    Texas
    Texas Tech
    West Virginia
    Eastern Team
     
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    Me personally I would just keep it regionally, if the South is that much stronger then so be it...that hasn't hurt the SEC any.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    I think this can be resolved by doing a "zipper" format.

    Red Division | Blue Division

    Texas - Texas Tech
    TCU - Baylor
    Oklahoma - Oklahoma State
    Kansas - Kansas State
    West Virginia - Cincinnati
    Iowa State - Team X (Houston! lololol)

    Each line represents a "permanent crossover" game, so you play 5 division games, 3 non-division games, and your permanent crossover game.

    It's pretty geographically and competitively balanced, all while maintaining rivalries/history.

    Several of these arrangements can be flip-flopped to suit personal preferences, too.
     
  18. gucci888

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    Not bad. I'd switch TCU with Tech and make Baylor the permanent crossover game with Texas but like the format.
     
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    I assume that Tech wouldn't agree to not playing UT every year, and Baylor TCU is a huge rivalry.

    I think you can flip Baylor and TCU so UT continues to play Baylor every year, but that kind of makes the geography a little top heavy in North Texas. Especially if UH isn't the 12th team involved.
     
  20. CometsWin

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    They need to kick out Iowa State really. They're irrelevant.
     

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