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A question to all those who bash James

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowconeman22, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    He's gonna be last in the league in mph, even below Duncan, Dirk and Garnett
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    And what makes your analysis more accurate? It isn't like you have more nuance.

    An NBA defense can't function when one of the five players on your squad plays this quasi zone defense where that player just hovers around in one area because god knows why(**** lung capacity or laziness?).

    I bet you if there was a metric for amount of miles run per game Harden would be near the bottom where the centers are which is pathetic for a NBA guard. Seriously does the guy smoke cigarettes?
     
  3. larsv8

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    So you believe every problem we have is Harden's fault.

    That is your position?

    If that is the case, the common sense makes my analysis more accurate.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't respect you, I think you are a ****ing moron, who has no understanding of team dynamics.

    So don't blow smoke up my ass...Harden sucks, and his leadership sucks, and you are a guy who apologizes for lack of effort which tells me you have ZERO clue about what it takes to be a leader of a team....or in anything.

    So, you may call me an idiot, but I think you are a moron.

    DD
     
  5. snowconeman22

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    This is what I'm talking about , my comment in no way was directed towards you . In fact I agreed with you that the word biased wasn't the correct word . In return , you personally attack me as a result of not being able to comprehend my post .... In a nutshell stupid . And to think this is the level of intelligence routinely being applied to basketball analysis . No wonder we get some of these hot takes . Emotion can make people idiots in the best of the moment , but unless the bbs has some serious pms , we just have a lot of idiots .
     
  6. Aleron

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    If this team didn't play Jones, we'd be about 29-13, not Warriors/Spurs, but certainly up around that 3rd/4th seed range. He has lost so many games for us, today included.

    Would people be entirely on Harden's nut if we were 29-13? Would the team be seen as an unmitigated disaster? Of course they wouldn't.

    If Harden had been playing like he did last year, we could probably be a comfortable 3rd, clearly he isn't, last year he was just so much better than he's been before or since, but apart from his 3 point shooting this year, he's probably a little better than his 2013-14 self.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    On the defensive end, he's a huge part. He throws the defensive rotation out of wack every position he plays because of his quasi zone d. You have along with a head coach that can't lay it in on the other players because his superstar is getting royal treatment and other players will notice these things.
     
  8. MD_in_Training

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    Dude, are you serious? Just because we have other problems doesn't mean Harden isn't the CRUX of our problems. When one player on a team doesn't play defense, and puts up inefficient offense with such high usage, your team isn't going to win many games against quality opponents. We have other issues, but this is the MAIN one.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Dear lord. Jones does not have a usage rate high enough to impact an NBA team enough to create a 10+ game swing. What the f are you smoking?
     
  10. larsv8

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    Ah yes, claiming Harden is not the root of all our problems is me "apologizing for his lack of effort".

    I see not only do you live in alternate basketball reality, you also live in alternate conversation reality.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    You still haven't managed to input any explicit nuanced arguments on why DaDakota or me is wrong.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I live in the world of truth - Harden is the problem the team follows his lead, they see him not playing defense and playing lazy and they follow his lead.

    It is not surprise that they came back with him scoring ZERO in the 4th quarter and then in OT he tries to take over and.....we lose.

    He is Adrian Dantley reincarnate, a great offensive player who cares more about his stats and brand than he does about winning.

    Even Doug Collins talks about having to motivate him in college, it is a character flaw.

    Either you get a STRONG coach that can bench him when he is lazy or you bite the bullet and trade him now and build around Howard.

    DD
     
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  13. snowconeman22

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    We have not yet won a game his season in which harden has had a subpar game . Every single win we've had , harden has carried the offense . It's not acceptable that as a team we cannot put together one win in which our star doesn't have to carry us . Especially with our amount of talent . The argument against this is what ...? Harden needs to show more effort on the defensive end and inspire the team even when he is playing poorly offensively . Sure in an ideal world that is what you want . Nothing is ever going to happen perfectly . We can't win one game in which James doesn't play well . What other team with this much talent is this true for ? GS ... No , curry can be off and they win . SA .... Psshh please ... OKC .... Durant has had bad games , so has Westbrook , the team has pulled through .

    I'm not even talking about agaisnt good teams here , we couldn't beat the ****ing 76'ers without James scoring 50 .

    We have not won a game without our " selfish / me guy " putting up a huge game . Harden has his flaws , but our coaching and adapting is some of the worst in the league . James going all out fixes things because he is that good , but the league has adapted to him and he needs to figure out how to respond . Coaching needs to help him with that . Everyone can do better , both individually and in playing as a team .
     
  14. BigMaloe

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    Lol. When you have a predetermined mindset on something you become biased and non subjective. Harden is at fault for things For sure but when you have an insane opinion about Harden like someone, oh say DD, then you are absolutely biased.

    Once your despise and hatred starts showing then it's obvious you've become biased. Harden will be blamed, for instance, about redick and Crawford. When really Redick is known to get this hot And it's his niche in the NBA. Not too mention he didn't guard him every basket. Even more so with Crawford who Ariza guarded the majority.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not making excuses or backing Harden because he did indeed leave redick open with Lackadaisical defense and rotating late and giving way too much space to a shootrr while ball watching.

    But to say I'm stupid or that I don't know what bias means and showing your lack of understanding the context of bias Proves you are the one who needs to know what it means.
     
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  15. LosPollosHermanos

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    You've had too much stupid to drink today, stop posting.
     
  16. Caesar

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    I still don't understand how Harden has supporters with that piss poor effort he continually gives on defense. I cringe every game he as lazily walks around with terrible body language and just tries to swipe at the ball as his man runs by him.

    I don't care how good you are on offense, but you don't belong on the floor if you won't even play on the other side of the game. That kind of **** belongs on AND 1 tours or Rucker park games.
     
  17. larsv8

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    -Um, its Harden's fault Beverley and Motiejunas are injured?
    -Its Harden's fault Terry, Lawson, Capella and Jones were a combined 5-15 from the free throw line?
    -Its Harden's fault JB waited till the fourth quarter to bench Jones and go to with a small ball lineup that scored 42 points?
    -Its Harden's fault Howard knocks the ball out of Jone's hands and into the basket on an uncontested rebound?
    -Its Harden's fault Harrell only got 5 minutes, and Jones 20?

    Jeez, you are right, Harden, what a dick head.

    Thats about, I don't know, 20 points right there.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Harden hasn't committed any crimes.

    I'll defend him on that one.
     
  19. Beardaholic13

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    Sure he cares about his stats...who gives a ****, hes our best offensive player by leaps and bounds. His priorities can be be fixed but the main problem isnt hardens selfishness like you and soo many dumb poster are trying to suggest.

    When you have a lineup of paul reddick bouemoute pierce and jordan, who should james be guarding? ofcourse not in a million years should it have been redick...tires him out on defense running through screens and you know hes a defensive liability

    And then on offense when you expect him to just comprimise and do basically everything on his own without setting up plays, whatin the world do u expect a 11 assist 0 turnover game?

    Be a little realistic and stop pumping out **** that makes 0 basketball sense, you cant expect our shooting guard to play two positions on offense and then bash him for it.....he had a **** game so what? without him we arent a playoff team its that simple, and with him and a better coach we a title contender
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    You know that GIF of the dude with hotdogs in his hands? Yea, some of the homers are like that. Some of them even act self righteous and cherry pick stats, and set rules for "when" they should be allowed *ahem* when it benefits Harden---paging larsv8 or w.e
     

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