I think it's cute how you continually try and paint me with this wholly inaccurate brush. I'm a devotee of the truth, facts, and evidence, it isn't my fault that your opinions consist of discredited turds from Bullsh!t Mountain. A Libertarian is someone who votes for Libertarians and believes in Libertarian ideals. That would be me. I'm 45, which I suspect is older than you, kid. Try again, rookie.
This passage was countering an opinion with a differing opinion. You're welcome to believe that Obama has been divisive, I haven't seen anything which would indicate that he has inflamed racial tension, but I have seen a LOT of racists pour out of the woodwork since 2009. The ACA passed through the House and Senate, was signed by the President and upheld by the SCOTUS when challenged. That is the very definition of normal legislative means. Feel free to point out where I claimed that the recovery was "great." You won't be able to do so. The GOP chose to obstruct all efforts to help the recovery in their effort to make Obama a one-term president. It was their number one priority, they explicitly said so, and they chose to harm the country in their effort to make Obama look bad. The widening has been going on since about 1975. There are a great many policies which have helped that process along, but the ACA isn't one of them. Large swaths of the middle class are eligible for subsidies for their insurance. Personally, I lament that Obama took single payer off the table before the negotiations even began, but that was his effort to try and bring Republicans to the table. Sadly, they had other priorities, as observed above. Please, keep doing so. I'll take 16 million fewer uninsured, the lowest healthcare inflation rate ever recorded, and the reigning in of the most egregious practices of the insurance industry. Sorry, typo. I meant to write "uninsured rate." Nope, just a typographical error, but feel free to ignore the context (which could have helped you figure out that I made a typo) and keep tossing out insults, a clear indication that you have nothing of substance to say. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/23/obamacare-saved-hospitals-7-billion-hhs/ Nope, stating facts backed by evidence. Feel free to substantiate the claim that doctors are dropping out in large numbers. Data please, remembering that data is not the plural for anecdote. A consequence of the private insurance market. They are allowed to change their plans and you are free to choose others. Please show data indicating a "massive exodus," again remembering that I'm talking about data, not anecdotes. Most "lower class" people get subsidies, defraying the cost of the "high premiums" you claim (but don't substantiate). Again, one is free to choose a plan that offers a lower deductible. I would have preferred single payer, but that's just me. No, your biased opinion based on the musings of partisan pundits is the joke. Please substantiate, with data. Completely agree. You know that the ACA forced insurance companies to cover preventative care, right? http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts-and-features/fact-sheets/preventive-services-covered-under-aca/ Try again, rookie.
Following up on the graph above. That said I wouldn't start dancing on Hillary Clinton's grave before a single vote has been cast. Even though she stumbled badly in 2008 she still had one of the longest primary fights in recent history. Even though she's been consistently hit from Right and Left she still seems able to comet back. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-slipping-faster-in-2016-than-it-did-in-2008/ In 2008, Hillary Clinton saddled up for the Kentucky Derby on a thoroughbred that was a sure thing. Her campaign was the finest colt in Kentucky, at odds that barely made it worth betting on her. The race began, and she was up by a quarter mile. Then, as another jockey started to gain, she slipped out of her saddle. She was barely hanging on, bumping along against the dirt, bruised and struggling and still hanging in there a half-a-length back. And then she lost and grudgingly wished the victor luck in winning the Triple Crown. So you have to figure that, when 2016 rolled around and everyone was saying, "No, this horse is a sure thing," she was a bit wary. But she got on. She ran strong. She did well. And now, in the final turn, there might be something wrong with the saddle. If we compare where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar. Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news. In Iowa, Clinton is running a bit better than she did in 2008 -- though, again, she's dipped significantly recently. It wasn't until the last week in 2008 that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third. She's doing far worse in New Hampshire than she did in 2008, thanks to New Hampshire being very much the home turf (and home demographics) of her main opponent. In 2008, her lead in New Hampshire evaporated after her Iowa finish, but she then managed to win anyway. A critical point to take away from this -- a point that we've made often before -- is that voting changes polling. If you look at her national numbers after Iowa in 2008, she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses -- but gained some of it back after her win in New Hampshire. In 2016, there's also a big difference between the demographics in Iowa and New Hampshire and other early states, which are much less white. Bernie Sanders struggles with non-white voters, so we can expect to see more dramatic changes after these early states vote. National numbers don't mean much right now. They're fickle. You can slip out of your saddle, you horse can stumble, and you can still win the race. But it can't be much fun to have it happen in two big races in a row.
Didn't feel like getting into every thing you two are talking about, but I was trying to understand why this is a good thing. It sounds like hospitals just made $7.4 billion more because of the ACA. Also, I had no idea you were libertarian unless you were just joking about being a libertarian . I'm not trying to sound snarky or whatever, but I always just assumed you were solidly on the left/democratic side of things based on your posts.
That's a safe assumption, he's either joking, or he doesn't actually know what the key concepts of Libertarianism are
If hospitals operate in any kind of efficient market, competition would force them to lower their prices and pass those savings to consumers. I think the insurance companies would insist on it. Those costs for the uninsured were just being paid by other parties. Now those costs are allocated into our insurance (private and govt) systems. I briefly browsed some stock histories to see if I could find evidence of hospitals getting this big windfall and didn't really find any smoking gun (of course stock price formation is complex).
Most hospital districts are reimbursed for uninsured patients, which comes out of taxpayer's pockets. The lower costs amount to money that we don't have to pay because people have insurance. Not kidding at all. My Presidential votes have gone for... GHWB Perot Clinton Gore Badnarik Barr Johnson I would prefer to vote Republican, but they went batsh!t crazy after Clinton got elected and I haven't been able to vote for them since.
I know them far better than you. I helped set up a speaker for the national convention when they were here in Houston.
If Hillary hadn't teared up the evening before the NH primary in 2008, it may have gone down differently and she probably would have lost a lot sooner. She won't be able to pull that trick again. But since this is BS instead of BO, she will win the nomination without a doubt.
I'll be voting Johnson again. I'm not really a libertarian, but I like the guy as a person. More than I can say about the other candidates.
Hillary's best strategy is to stay totally out of sight and unseen. The more people hear her speak, the less they like her.
It continues to give me great delight that I have been dominating your thoughts and controlling your emotions for over a decade. I absolutely love it!
Actually her best strategy is to hope the Republicans call her before congressional hearings. Every time that happens she seems to go up in the polls.
If Gladiato makes a personal attack on me, which he did, I will return fire. Please direct your hate to Gladiato's cheap personal attack. TIA
Are you kidding me? Delicious. Bless the "liberrtarians" The nutjob who was doing drugs and hanging out with underage teenagers in Belize? http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/02/features/dangerous Makes Carson, Trump and the GOP gang look like statesman. lol
