what qualities did this guy possess that oh so badly needed to be replaced? the horrible decision making. the ill advised 3's. the bad ft shooting. the low iq. the inconsistency. There's a reason why hes rotting on the Clips bench and even with Blake out. There was nothing terrible about the GM move. An attempt was made to bring him back. How many times does it need to be said. It's 100% all on JS that he's in LA playing for the minimum. plain and simple
Clearly you make your points by avoiding others. The fact that Morey didn't add another player to the frontcourt that can contribute is the terrible GM move. I liked Smith but my point wasn't it had to be him we sign. If you think we're not lacking in the frontcourt then there is no point in responding to my posts. Coming into the season we knew DMO was out and Dwight would miss games. So I guess you consider Capela Jones and Harrell enough for a contending rotation.
clearly its a crowded front court but i guess its a little hard for you to notice that. whatever your opinion is on those 5 in the front court, so adding JS into that all of a sudden makes that into a contending rotation to you? Umm Not really. Who is this frontcourt player that our terrible GM should have went in and scooped after JS decided to sign with the Clips.
My opinion of those 5? I mean, have you noticed that Dmo has pretty much been out all season. You know Harrell is a rookie and doesn't play much right. It's more like 3 and we knew Dwight would miss games coming into the season. Another big man would have helped the start of the season, which would have gotten us a better record, which would have gotten us a seed. I don't know who you think he should have gone for. He might not know either because he paid more attention to signing an insignificant piece (KJ). I personally would have liked to see more money for a 1 year thrown at Josh and forget KJ.
Ok let's get some things straight: 1. If all players are healthy we have Howard, Capela, Tjones, DMo and Harrell at the roster. That's 5 guys at the front court not counting Brewer and 3Za who can play stretch PF. If we need a big man, then that guy would probably be a Center who can back up Dwight, not another PF/SF guy like Smith. 2. The season isn't even half done, if your point is the rox would have gotten a higher seed with smith then honestly it's a ****ty point, you want Morey to have signed Smith just so you will have someone play PF the first 4 months, what happens when everybody becomes healthy after the all star break? You will have like 6 guys battling for 2 spots how's that supposed to result in a higher seed? Most likely you will have a good record in the beginning and then implode prior to the playoffs as everyone starts b****ing about PT. 3. The first two points are taking into account Smith sustains his play last year, which as we can see in his play in the Clips this year is not true at all. Smith is shooting 38% this year. The reality is JSMith felt underappreciated during the summer and thus had all the incentive in the world to work on his game to stick it to the Rox. If he had this motivation and is still playing like trash on the Clips then why will his game be amazing if he had stayed in the Rox' garbage camp which resulted in Harden and co. being out of shape? That Smith would have been amazing on the Rox this year is a total myth and has no basis whatsoever, past performance has never been an assurance of future performance so considering Harden played like an MVP and Brewer was amazing last year and both started the season horribly what makes you think JSmith would have been the missing link? What is more likely is Smith would have been out of shape partying too and would have played horribly like Harden, Brew, Dwight and TLawson. 4. Smith doesn't want to sign a long term contract, the only reason he is signing for minimum is because Detroit is still paying him his original salary, and next year there will be a cap increase of around 30% so there will be a lot of money floating around. The league min is around 1.5M, he can get 4-5M easily next year. 5. Mcdaniels hasn't been getting PT but when he was in Philly he was pretty good and played like a low lottery pick. The rox were able to sign him 3M for 3 years and own his bird rights. He is way better value than JSMith at this point, just because he hasn't been playing doesn't mean he won't play later in the season or next year. You have to have a long term view and not just focus on the current season, this is why the Nets suck while the Spurs have a young LMA and Kawhi to carry their team now.
1. Smith is better than all those guys bar Howard. Just stop. 3. Seems legit. Has been in and out of the rotation, has had zero continuity in minutes, let's just point to his FG % and say he has been awful this year. How many Clippers games do you watch? He's the same player as he was last season. 5 [A]. False. McDaniels has never been very good. A good game here or there yes, but he was putting up mediocre numbers on a basket case team. 5 . False.
you have no idea who he should of picked up then what are you even complaining about. just stop. If you're going to criticize atleast have some solution to back up all this talk. Yeah the correct GM move is to throw a ton of money at JS who can't even play for more than a minimum. What are you even talking about. And people still think KJ is this reason JS left lol
smith is not better than all those guys. just stop. No he's not the same player from last season. He's in a different system and his play is worse as expected. His overall basketball play is exposed with the Clips so no its not the same.
He most definitely is. Yeah sure he's in a different system. His play has not been amazing, but when you are attempting 5 shots a game and are constantly falling in and out of the rotation you can see why. I am curious to know how often you watch the Clippers. His play hasn't been exposed, like I said before: stuff going on behind the scenes, he's been relegated to the bench because he's clashed heads with Rivers over PT.
so you're blaming it on him not being in the game and lack of shot attempts. There's a reason for all that. Tell yourself that first. No his play has been exposed plain and simple. Not every system allows him to play as freely as the Rockets did last season and if you don't know the difference bw the Rockets system and the Clips then you wouldn't know why JS is sitting on that bench. He's never been a great shooter or efficient and that's exactly what you're seeing. Anyone who has followed JS career would know this would happen.
My point is if he really liked it here, he would probably come back. I don't believe the narrative of him signing to Clippers because they have better chance at championship. How can a guy say such a thing after he obliterated them in playoffs? There probably was something else. Maybe he didn't like the system, playing along Harden or something else entirely. I mean, he went to a team that already has a Top3 PF at his position for less money...
Kind of late in the thread to chime in, but I do think Josh Smith plays better in our system than others. I agree with all the posters who say he was a chucker a bit too often. I also agree with the ones that say this team misses him. Not for the simple fact that "we need a better PF", but because what he did on defense fueled our offense. He was the reason the "Band of Brothers" worked last year. As Smith helped shut down the inside defensively Brewer would be on the break. This is why our bench play and defense hasn't been as good and directly correlates with Brewers "decline" (not having Dmo healthy is also a contributing factor). Josh Smith helped our transition game so much. The fact that he is a good passer in a half court setting is also a reason this team misses him. I hated to see him go because I knew there's really no where else that was going to reign him in quite as well as we were able to last year.
coming from the stuff Ive seen you post I can tell you know nothing about the game of basketball and how it works at the highest level. Move along. You're just another armchair for sure
Why do you think he has been in and out of the rotation? He gets inconsistent minutes because he sucks, its not he sucks because he gets inconsistent minutes. Dude is like 30 years old already, he should produce consistently if given minutes, which he hasn't that's why he's been getting garbage minutes. He's not the same player at all as last year, just on energy alone it is different and statistically JSMith had 43% FG last year vs 38% FG in this year. And again how do you know he would have played better this at the start of the year when guys like Brew and Harden who played great played like crap? You have no basis for this and all evidence points to him sucking just like the rest of the team why is why having him here would not have made any difference. In fact considering how ****ty he's been playing on the Clipps he might be Lawson/Brew the 2nd and still be in a slump to this day. How is the clips style different from Houston? They also shoot a lot of 3s and try to drive in the hoop, the composition of CP3/Reddick/Wesley Johnson/BG/Jordan is extremely similar to what Houston has, you just have the SG and PG roles reversed. I'm sorry to burst the bubbles of people here but the grass isn't always greener on the other side, you guys just remember how well he played last year and don't look on how he's playing now or how he would have played while out of shape and partying just like everyone on the team during the summer. He would've sucked when we needed him and by the time he played better we would've had a glut on the PF position which you guys just don't get.
It was also 100% his choice, the Rockets were just honest about his role but made sure to offer him more than the minimum required. The guy chose a lesser role on a team that offered him less money so I don't know why you guys are giving him a pass he joined along with Pierce and Lance Stephenson what role did he expect? Both JSMith and Jordan are Houston dumb and dumber who fell for CP3's/Rivers PR bull**** and promises of big roles and contributions and couldn't recognize the teams who really wanted them (Houston and Dallas). Not only is JSmith getting half the money he could've gotten, he is also getting half the PT as last year while Jordan didn't just destroy his credibility, after all that "we need you" BS he is now taking even less shots than last year.
Oh please. 95% of the people on this forum are old fat white men who have never played basketball past the YMCA level.
Wholeheartedly agree. Morey is great at what he is doing, but I would love to see he valued "fit" a bit more. Much has been made about how good would players like Draymond Green or Kawhi Leonard be on other teams. Probably not as good, but they can shine in their system because they FIT so well. Josh Smith fit into our chaos offense better than most of the guys, so I was disappointed when he left. Even with all his antics, he still brought so much energy and will to win to the court that it was really contagious. And I feel like he was finally having fun while playing here, which I haven't seen since his Atlanta days.
what an attempt to not place yourself in that category. If you want to try and talk about basketball stick to it. if not go somewhere else with all that armchair bs.
