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Is Hillary blowing it?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    They do
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    They cannot give him credit for anything
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    they won't

    Don't expected it

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  2. bigtexxx

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    Middle East is an absolute disaster

    Racial tensions abound, when Obama was supposed to help here

    We now have Islamic terrorist attacks in our homeland (kind of a big problem)

    Economic recovery, which is natural and expected after every trough in the business cycle, could have been much better if Obama had done more than simply outsource the hard work to the Fed.

    Dangerous precedent of executive action

    Jamming Obamacare down our throats with a purely partisan vote and bending the rules to get it through - "we have to pass it before we can know what's included in it!"

    Obama made fun of special olympians on national TV (Leno show) - truly as bad as it gets.

    Going golfing after ISIS beheads first American

    "We have ISIS contained" in the morning, massacre in Paris in afternoon.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    This is a common problem that people substitute opinion for facts. So when Obama has actually done a lot but all of it which they didn't like they say he's accomplished nothing. I didn't like most of what GW Bush did but I wouldn't say that he accomplished nothing.
     
  4. okierock

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    Most people don't refer to doing something that they feel was bad or negative as an accomplishment.
     
  5. Commodore

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  6. ivanyy2000

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    More ppl than ever are on food stamp and welfare. Jobs are created but wages are stagnant. Wealth gap has actually widened, middle class not booming but suffering and riches got even richer even though Obama and democrats were pushing income inequity issue like non-stop. Not to mention the disaster so called "ACA".

    Look, Obama is certainly better than Bush, who was probably the worst president in the history. But it doesn't make Obama an excellent one, he is below average and certainly way below my expectation.
     
  7. Dubious

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    So you come at your evaluation with bias looking to validate your preconception to sway political power. Generally and comparatively things are pretty good and Mr. Obama really didn't do anything to make things worse.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    Apparently, it wasn't simple enough for you to understand it.

    Same bullsh!t, different day.

    Obama went out of his way, bent over backwards, to include the GOP and try to get them to contribute anything positive to his policy proposals. No amount of history rewriting will change the simple fact that the GOP decided before Obama was even sworn in that they would oppose absolutely everything he proposed because their number one priority was making him a one-term president.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    ...as it has been for 5000 years.

    Racial tensions abound in large part because racists threw a massive hissy fit when a black man was elected.

    Wait, we didn't have any Islamic terrorist attacks before Obama? Your memory is incredibly short if you believe that bullsh!t.

    He tried, only to have all of his efforts obstructed by an historically intransigent GOP. Still, even with Republicans working at every turn to scuttle the recovery, we have had an unprecedented number of months of job growth after the global economy nearly melted down.

    You do realize that executive action has been part of this nation's history since George Washington, right?

    He didn't bend ****, the ACA passed through normal legislative means. As a result, 16 million people now have healthcare insurance who didn't before. That's a win for the country, not a loss. Once again, the "purely partisan vote" was the result of the GOP deciding that making Obama a one-term president was more important than any other priority.

    He told a bad joke in which he was trying to disparage himself, not special olympians, but keep believing the turds from Bullsh!t mountain, that appears to be all you've got.

    Seriously? How long would have been an appropriate amount of time for Obama to put off his leisure activities?

    Since when did we become responsible for protecting Paris from a massacre?

    Your echo chamber points are dismissed. Try again, rookie.
     
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    ...as a result of the Great Recession and its aftereffects.

    Just as stagnant as they have been since 1975.

    Yes, it has continued widening as it has since 1975.

    There is a difference between "pushing" and "passing." Blame the GOP for their unprecedented obstruction, they are the reason the recession affected us for as long as it has.

    You really don't want to mention the ACA, which has resulted in the lowest unemployment rate in history, dramatic savings by hospitals who don't have to cover as many uninsured people, and the lowest healthcare inflation rate in history. I'll take this "disaster" over the dumpster fire that was the healthcare system prior to the ACA.

    Low bar.

    Disagree, there have been at least two others who were worse, maybe as many as five.

    I will go with below what I expected when he was elected, but given the benefit of having seen the unprecedented opposition, he has accomplished an impressive amount.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    That by definition is substituting opinion for fact.

    People can certainly disagree with what Obama has accomplished but the facts stand that he did get many things accomplished.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    I do think it's adorable that GladiatoRowdy still tries to pretend that he's not a Democrat and an Obama nut hugger. I mean, I'm sure he thinks he's fooling people by claiming to be a Libertarian but he does nothing but spout talking points straight from the Democrat party and I'm not even sure he knows what a Libertarian is.

    You meet all sorts of crazy kids on these boards but this kid sticks out.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    I think he's earned trust. Whatever he posts is usually backed up by evidence, articles, or studies backing up what he says.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Well you must remember a lot of people will just ignore all stats, studies, and all that nonsense for what they feel is correct.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh I trust that he's clearly a Democrat who regurgitates talking points all over this board over and over again. He's absolutely earned that trust.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Also, all you are really saying here is that you agree with the talking points that he spews out here. It's not really addressing what I said.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    If by 'blowing it' you mean Bill's penis -- then no she is not blowing it.
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    What did W accomplish? He destroyed the economy. Two idiotic wars. I guess he gave money to africa.

    Obama is not an average president, he is one of the most impactful presidents in the last 50 yards.
     
  19. ipaman

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    One man does not have this much influence. The POTUS is closer to the Queen of England than to an Influential Leader.

    That said, Obama sucked because he lied just like all politicians do. No one has yet to enter the political machine and remain steadfast. The first one who does will be my hero.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    LOL WOT?

    We can start with that "evidence" here.

    Again, "LOL". Normal legislative means. This is a hoot. Talking about a slanted view.

    This completely contradicts Obamas great economy recovery.

    Thanks to policies like Obamacare, which continue to help the lower class and the upper class, as the expense of the middle class.

    Yes, we really do want to mention Obamacare. Affordable Care Act is anything but affordable. So lets call it what it really is ... Obamacare. Let history know this was Obama's baby.

    And exactly how does Obamacare attribute to the lowest unemployment rate in history? That was back in 1950. And exactly how did Obamacare help with the recovery? This wasnt a jobs program. It sounds like our resident buffoon is randomly making up information and passing them off as facts.

    Show me these dramatic savings by hospitals. At this point, you're quoting the sales pitch for Obamacare.

    Since Obamacare is doing so great, please explain the doctors dropping out of private insurance. Please explain how people can "keep your doctor" when insurance companies are constantly changing their plans. Please explain the massive exodus out of the exchange by insurance companies. Please explain the high deductibles in which many lower class people can't afford after paying the already high premiums. Obamacare is a joke. All it has resulted in was keeping people with minor issues from going to the doctor. We need to improve on preventative care, not costly major health coverage after the damage has been done.
     

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