worst of all, the Texans will likely take him in the first round as he may not be around when the Texans pick again in the second. Awesome!
I find it funny how people will cry about how the Texans never draft QBs and then in the next breath lament about how they're going to overdraft Hackenberg. I don't see it happening. The Texans may indeed draft Hackenberg, but not in the first.
When you don't have an elite QB, you HAVE to have an elite RB. The Texans are not going to have an elite QB, they need one at the RB position. Regardless of the QB, I want Elliot or Forte.
There are a lot of picks between their first and second picks. It's a gamble to assume their QB will still be available. I feel like they've made that gamble and lost too often.
I think people read too much into the OB/Hackenberg connection. That's literally the only reason to think the Texans would be the only team to reach on him early. It's an overly simplistic analysis and I don't buy it. And if you believe McNair, it's not just OB making the decision anyway. If we do take him, it will be in an appropriate spot. I agree that there will likely be better QBs available in the first couple of rounds, before the appropriate place to take Hackenberg would occur. And I don't believe we'll pass over certain QBs just to take Hack which is why I have serious doubt of Hackenberg becoming a Texan.
Goff and Lynch likely gone. Wentz possibly so you are left with Cook and Hack. Not too much difference between the two so might as well take Hack because his dad and bob are buddies
You people underrate Hackenberg. I don't know why. When it comes to college QBs, you're doing yourself a disservice to look at stats alone, and it seems so many here do just that. I just think it's comical, and it's a microcosm of the board's "what are they doing now" attitude. Two years ago, you guys would have killed to have Hackenberg on the team. Kind of how most everyone soured on Teddy Bridgewater for no reason. I'm not saying he's the best prospect in the draft, because he's not. But some of you act like you wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole? Why? Because you're so jilted by his association with O'Brien, which hasn't worked out before? The two O'Brien associated quarterbacks that came here (and there were a lot more that weren't associated with O'Brien) were never top flight QBs or QB prospects (besides Mallett, who fell for personal issues). Hackenberg was a five star recruit. It wasn't just O'Brien that wanted him. It was everyone. No, the Texans will not overdraft Hackenberg, I absolutely agree with that. But to say that there will be many better quarterbacks available when it comes time to pick? Who? Goff and Lynch will be gone. Wentz will probably be gone. That leaved Hack and Cook. Hackenberg will rise. Cook is projected to fall. The only quarterback that I've listed that may be avaiavble for our second round pick is Cook, who I want no part of. Otherwise, with the second round pick, you have a shot at the coachbadlee special, which is a reach, in my opinion, and Jacoby Brissett, who may be decent. I just don't know what some of our fans expect this team to do. It's like they expect the Texans to borrow their Crayola factory so that they can build a perfect quarterback to bring in from nowhere. It's funny how beggars become choosers around here so easily. This team is extremely desperate for anything at that position.
If Hack is their man at qb, then draft him at 22. The worst thing they could do is to get cute and try to outsmart themselves
My concern with Hack is that, in the couple games I watched him, he looked horrible. The problem with trying to grade him out is that he had a poor offensive line. I dont know if his inaccurate throws are because he has David Carr syndrome or because he just isnt very accurate. There are times that he doesnt seem to be pressured, but makes poor throws. He completed 53% of his passes this past season...that is terrible, even with a poor offensive line. Accuracy is one of the most important things for a QB to be successful. Arm strength is secondary. If Im the Texans, I honestly do anything I can to trade into the top 6 and get either Goff or Lynch. It's more important than ever to get a QB...and if the ONLY thing that changes for 2016 is a new, shiny QB, then that is an awesome offseason. When you look at the top 6 picks, only the Browns will take a QB. That leaves either Lynch or Goff sitting at #6 before the Niners pick at #7. As has been mentioned around the radio...would you trade Clowney and your #22 pick to the Ravens for #6? Basically, would you rather have Clowney and Hackenburg/Cook...or Goff/Lynch? Edit: Basically, Sam Bradford and Cliff Avril...or Eli Manning?
Hackenburg is not a accurate college passer in a day when it's not hard to make 60% of your throws. My girlfriend is a penn state alum, and we watched a ton of his games. Dude cannot make throws. He is a pocket slough. I would rather tank for Clemson QB than take Hackenburg. As far as him being a five star QB in HS. Irrelevant. So was Garrett Gilbert. So were a ton of QBs who never worked out in the pros. But whatever, if they draft him, so be it. As long as they don't do it in the first round.
Also, I have no doubt in my mind that Hackenburg will be a workout and combine beast. He will look like a great QB in shorts and a tee shirt and people will forget his 53% passing in college games.
It took 3 first rounders and a 2nd rounder for Washington to move up 4 spots for RGIII. What do you think it would take to move up 16 spots into the top 6? Leveraging an entire draft (in this case it would likely mean leveraging 2 or 3) for a single player not named Luck is never a good idea. Just for kicks, if the Texans made that RGIII trade, it would have costed us Mercilus, Hopkins, and Clowney. Even if there was some type of protection with Clowney, then it would mean no Kevin Johnson. As far as the Clowney trade you mentioned, I'm sure every single Texan fan would jump on that deal which should probably tell you something.
What if the Texans had to throw in a 3rd on top? The RG3 trade was more of an anomaly than the norm. Also, the #6 pick in the draft is FAR less valuable (from a trade perspective) compared to the #2. And Mick Fry has already mentioned that it would be dumb to do that trade. Based on draft trade value charts, #6 is worth 1600 points. #22 is 780...and our 3rd rounder is 160. Clowney should make up the difference, unless teams dont value him as a 2nd rounder.
People also keep saying the Rams got 3 firsts, but it was really 2 firsts and a pick swap in 2012. Also, since the trade, the redskins have won the division 2 times, while the Rams continue to be eh.
