The special teams sucked, especially on punts. At first I thought it was just because lechler out punted everyone cause he has such a strong leg but then I realized we never have anyone within 20 yards of the ball on every punt because our coverage is bad. Also we rarely had opportunities to return punts due to bad blocking on them.
That's what they do they ban you when you tell the complete truth. Don't talk about how good ol boy this system is either. They fired the wide receivers coach knowing the qb is trash. Good ol boy system.
We finished 9-7 and *barely* outpaced a Colts organization that was without breath in its lungs. There is NO way we beat the Colts if Andrew Luck doesn't miss a majority of the season due to injury. We need to see it for what it is: we were just above .500 and we would not have won the south and would have missed the playoffs had Luck been healthy. That is the level of accountability that needs to be had at NRG headquarters. Not, "well, we won the south!", but "would we have beaten the Colts with Luck and two healthy kidneys". You cannot count on Luck being hurt again. We need a quarterback badly, we all know this fact. However, given this point, which was readily available information heading into this season, it need not be discounted the level of ineptitude in PUP'ing Savage. This decision alone is worthy of someone being fired. As I see it, there is only one of two truths (1) Savage isn't the QB of the future so don't tell the fans he is or (2) Savage has the potential to be the QB of the future and someone *royally* messed up putting him on the PUP. Perhaps it is positioning for the draft to feign our hope of the future is in Savage's hands, but my theory is that they are clueless on the QB position. Perhaps a band-aid will fall into our laps. Hopefully, in the process we avoid taking further scraps from teams like the Browns, 9'ers, etc. etc. I do not trust that we see something that they do not, nor do I trust that we can coach them up to some semblance of a starting caliber QB. My confidence is shaken in the Texans; such that if Smith, OB, Godsey and Hoyer are all wearing a game used texans shirt next year, I will question the accountability in the organization. It hurt; the kick return, but the Watt jumbo wildcat followed by the pass on the 2 was certainly the nail in the coffin. That is not on the Special Teams coach, that is not on receivers coach and that is not on the defensive assistant. That is on one of a few people that need be held accountable; those same people that terminated others signifying a scapegoat mentality. I will support the Texans whole-heartedly. These men go to war for us. Cushing - he has and will change the longevity of his life laying it on the field every Sunday. He is a hero for us. He wears his helmet and leaves specs of it all over the field. I will cheer my guts out for men such as him, but I will temper expectation(s) of the organization to ever bring home the Lombardi.
Relax. We all know he sucked. To answer your question, Hoyer was NOT responsible for any touchdowns. He doesn't play defense. He is responsible for losing us many drives with his turnovers, that's for sure, but you're not entirely sure if he cost us touchdowns.
Texans scored 0 points and Hoyer independently committed 5 turnovers. His turnovers put our defense in too many bad situations to give up points or either let the team down.
To clarify, I wasn't saying Special Teams wasn't a problem, it obviously was. I was saying that getting rid of Hoyer needs to be the next move.
The Colts were 2-5 with Andrew Luck this year. Even if you discount every game after his injury (which is fair, though, Luck was very good in all those games, minus the loss to Carolina), they were 1-2 with their lone victory a 2-point win against Tennessee in which they trailed 27-14, entering the 4Q. It certainly helped the Texans that the Colts had a tough year - but their tough year echoed our tough year and, frankly, we did a better job overcoming poor QB play, which, I would think, speaks to our coaches/team overall being better. The Colts are not a very good football team. They have a very good QB. But their front office is terrible and their GM and head coach, apparently, are dysfunctional. I don't think we ought to slack the Texans too much for what they accomplished.
Arrogant... or realistic? I'd agree arrogant if teams were falling over themselves trying to offer the Texans legitimately good QBs and he passed to stick with his guys. But we all know that wasn't the case. No one can point to a legitimately better QB - that was readily available - than Fitzpatrick and/or Hoyer, who are both mediocre, at best, and prone to huge mistakes. And... if my calculations are correct*, he may have positioned the Texans perfectly (by happenstance but still) for what I think will be an unprecedented number of available QBs this offseason. Brees, Rivers, Stafford - I'd reach out and ask about all 3. Cousins might be available (doubtful), Osweiler might be available... Peyton Manning might be available....... Hell, Sam Bradford could be had. There could legitimate upgrades out there. * My calculations are rarely correct
How is that? I disagree. The season could be pinned on the win in Indy. Matt Hasselbeck with a serrated rib (IIRC) took the colts to 10-16 and controlled the game for a large portion of it until JDC hit him (legally) on the sideline. Then we faced tarzan with two gloves. We had never won at Lucas Oil Stadium. Luck over combined (a) Hasselbeck and (b) 2-glove Tarzan is more than a 6 point swing in my mind. I think that it is real. I don't disagree that the Colts are terrible, I'm saying that a healthy Luck is > 6 points better than an injured and old Hasselbeck and 2G-Tarzan. It was too close, considering their injuries. Consider, and I shudder to think (having seen the Texans, post-Watt injury Saturday) how that game goes if *our* (franchise and) best player Watt, is injured and doesn't take the plane ride to Indy.
we won with yates going down and weeden coming in. it was an impressive season, when you have hoyer and mallet as starters and still make the playoffs. The colts couldn't surround luck with enough good lineman to help his neckbeard stay upright. that's part of team building. You guys act like Bortles is the second coming and when we pressure him out his jockstrap oh well it's the jaguars. GUy holds on to the ball and the line isn't fortified.
Fixing STs can be easy while fixing the QB will not be so easy. Any smart coach would fix the easiest first. It's refreshing BOB is not preoccupied with only fixing the QB situation because there is no easy answer there. If you can make small gains in other areas maybe that adds up to an additional win in the W-L column.
Saturday . . . . a Coach double down on his own stubbornness He decided after the boos. . . he'd show these people He was the smartest He knew better He had his guy and he was gonna show em He stuck with his guy . . . his guy failed miseribly He didn't care because he knew better It was a dumb decisions. He did not recognize HIS GUY was not big enough for the moment. By the end of the third I realized he was too proud to admit a mistake People think we deflated after Watt's injury but to me It was the moment Hoyer stepped on the field after half time The team seemed like. . .well if the coach don't give a F*** . .why should I NO ONE can tell me after the 1st half . . . HOYER GAVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN N O ONE!1 Rocket River
Guys... his back-up was Brandon Weeden. Can we all take a deep breath and pretend this is September 2015, and someone on here is arguing Brandon Weeden belongs in the NFL, let alone leading a second half playoff comeback... Come on. I mean... sticking with Hoyer, going with Weeden - there's no freaking difference: they're both awful. Keep in mind, the Cowboys, who's QB situation was arguably worse than ours, cut the guy. BOB stuck with the guy who took all the reps with the first team and gameplanned all week, hoping against hope the first half was a aberration - that was his *only* chance and he (probably) knew it wasn't much of one at all. I honestly don't think this was stubborn, arrogant anything... He may have been frustrated with the "boo" comment - he's a bit fiery, ya know. But I don't think he really had viable alternatives.
Going with Weeden would have given the team a chance, sticking with Hoyer guaranteed a loss and an embarrassing loss. There's absolutely no excuse for sticking with Hoyer during the 3rd worst QB performance in NFL playoff history.
And how upset/deluded fans are. Brian Hoyer is not a good QB. He also wasn't playing Texas State University. Kansas City has a tremendous defense with abundant playmakers. Any notion that an equally bad - just different - QB would have fared any better against that defense is just silly. BOB rode Hoyer to hell because it was his only, albeit tiny hope.
Yes, I know that.....and what you don't understand is just how disgracefully terrible Hoyer is and was in that game. If Hoyer stays healthy all season and we don't play Yates and Hoyer, the Texans don't make the playoffs, simple as that. I understand that Yates and Weeden were street free agents that really shouldn't be in the league, that doesn't mean that they aren't both better than Hoyer. He really was one of the worst QB's in the entire league, even when you count backups and now he's in the record books with the 3rd worst QB performance in NFL history. Even QB's from back in the days when a 50% completion percentage and almost as many interceptions as TD's was considered the norm even among the best in the game still performed better than Hoyer for the most part. Yes, Weeden was the better option, even if he might not have been good enough to get the win.
