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The case for Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Well here are some of his roster moves:

    QB- sign Hoyer, trade for Mallet then cut Mallet, IR Savage

    RB- sign Polk because of an inaccurate memory of him getting 150 yards on the Pats

    TE- cut Daniels, costing a compensatory pick and our best receiving te. Draft Fiedo because he's the next Gronk

    WR- trade three picks for Strong, barely plays. Sign Shorts and Washington

    DT- trade three picks for Nix, cut Nix

    LB- trade an extra pick for McKinney

    S- cut Manning, costing a compensatory pick then resign him. Sign Rahim Moore then deactivate him for the year

    K- sign Novak who struggles to get touchbacks
     
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  2. Two Sandwiches

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    1. We've beat the quarterback issue to death. Not gonna touch it.
    2. The Polk memory was against the Texans. The Polk signing was actually a decebt move. He got a ton out of a crappy running stable.
    3. Not sure why he cut Daniels
    4. Strong is coming on great. Looks promising. The Shorts and Washington signings were great, aside from Washington dropping passes.
    5.The Nix move was the worst move, but Nix was widely regarded as a first round prospect. He fell hard. We didn't see him going full out couch potato on us.
    6. McKinney is playing great. Worth the trade. Also, give him credit for the John Simon and Brian Peters signings. Both were excellent.
    7.Manning sucked. The Moore signing was the second worst thing done.
    8. The Novak move was fine.

    Also, give him credit for Akeem Hunt and BJ Daniels. Great pickups.

    Simon, Peters, Hunt and BJ Daniels, while not the greatest pickups, were shrewd moves that show why this regime has great potential. Simon, if I recall, had been cut by the Ravens. We picked him up and he's playing pretty well as a starter. Peters, I think we got off the Vikings practice squad, turned into one of the best special teamers in the league. Hunt and Daniels, plucked from practice squads as well, both added new dimensions to the offense mid-season. These are the kinds of moves that propel teams to and through the playoffs.

    We truly are one or two playmakers and a quarterback away from being one of the best teams in the league.
     
  3. IBTL

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    :eek:

    well since you said 'truly' Im convinced
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    This team isn't broken and need of a complete overhaul like so many on here seem to feel. You don't go 9-7 in two straight seasons strictly by luck.

    The team has one titanic hole, and we all know what it is. BOB has been arrogant in his belief that he can succeed with anybody and there's no telling how good we could have been this year if he had addressed it in the off season. While his job shouldn't be in danger, the seat should be getting warm because he hasn't addressed the teams most important position. He better get us a QB, come hell or high water.
     
  5. Nick

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    And in effect, once a coach selects "his" QB (whether via the draft or via trade/free agency), his fate is already going to be directly tied to him anyways.

    There's never been a coach that has outlasted a QB "bust".
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    All your hyperbole aside and the QB issue aside, you think the rest is really that big of an issue? Or as you put it, "horrific"?

    QB and special teams are where we need to improve the most. We need to get better everywhere obviously, but those two issues are major.
     
  7. J Hard

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    Not moronic, its understandable, the guy thought brian hoyer was the qb to go with. That was moronic, but if the 'qb guru' gets his head outa his arse and show hes competent at selecting one then he may restore more credibility.

    We couldve had teddy AND carr but decided against both, very smart ob.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Basically the 8 picks we lost making bad moves is what makes it bad, not the individual players. The picks be made not trading up are fine (except XSF)

    And I don't think he's learned as they're already talking about trading up for a QB
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Nix is the only big mistake so far in my opinion in giving up too much for a player. I don't agree with your logic.
     
  10. Nick

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    There's a boat-load of bias hidden within the "logic."
     
  11. TheFreak

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    The team committed nothing to Hoyer. What is he making, like 3mil? How is that moronic? He was familiar with the system and was available, that's why he is on the team, just like Mallet. Not to mention the Texans have a draft board and I'm pretty sure it's not one man that comes up with it.
     
  12. BoneYardDog

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    Got banned off Texans message board for telling the truth about Hoyer and OB continuing to make excuses for playing to lose the game.

    Maybe they think I gave a crap.

    What a disgraceful organization from top to bottom.
     
  13. No Worries

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    ... that just won their division and made the playoffs, having four different QBs get a W.
     
  14. v3.0

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    Just like Kubiak, we gotta sit and watch another rookie nfl head coach go through on the job training and learn at the texans expense. Hoping obrien has a faster learning curve than kubes but then again kubes committed to his qb early on and stuck to him.
     
  15. Joe Fan

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> fired special teams coordinator Bob Ligashesky, receivers coach Stan Hixon and defensive assistant Anthony Pleasant.</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/686563435564281860">January 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  16. conquistador#11

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    to be filled by the "film recorder" from the patriots and the guy who deflates football from the patriots.:p
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    OBie held special teams coordinator Bob Ligashesky accountable.
     
  19. Master Baiter

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    Probably because anyone not name Hopkins could not catch a pass to save their life? This was supposed to be the 'best' receiving core for the Texans ever and they consistently dropped passes all year long.
     
  20. Madano

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    Special Teams only gave up one touchdown... How many touchdowns was Hoyer responsible for? If Hoyer isn't gone before training camp, it'll be hard to take anything the Texans do seriously.
     

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