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Donatas Motiejunas - X Factor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DudeWah, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. daywalker02

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    @Mathloom and you
    I understand that Jones had a rather bad season but he is still an asset. He did better than Dmo in the Dleague and their first two years and then Dmo had a good season while Jones was injured.
    You claim to be an optimist yet your post sound ridiculous as ever. You want Jones traded then claim he is the worst player lol. Way to devalue your player, if you are a GM you clearly fail. You would move player just for its moving's sake. When will people in here see that both players have not been the solution at PF. Porzingis has shown us what a real good talent at PF can look like. Period
     
  2. dobro1229

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  3. wekko368

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    B/c in the grand scheme of things, we can afford to lose a few extra regular season games if it means we have a stronger team for the playoffs. And as far as the playoffs go, as long as we avoid the 7th or 8th seed, we should be fine.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I want him moved because he's a waste of a roster space and you might as well get something for him on the way out simple as that.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    When will you see that Bickerstaff is the bigger problem. He is not motivating younger players and his record with the starting lineup is average at best (Yeah he is winning couple of games now).Couple of young players or bench players have been really bad under his tutelage. Dude is bad with rotations, cannot deal with talent.Thornton is furious.
     
  6. wekko368

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    Jones has always had a questionable motor, and he's playing for a new contract. That alone should be enough motivation.
     
  7. heypartner

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    You're saying that Morey can't figure out how to trade TJ without forcing DMo to fake that's he is injury-prone.

    How does forcing DMo to fake an injury make us a stronger team? We can't even trade him right now, nor probably at the trade deadline. Why would Morey think that helps the team? You make no sense whatsoever.

    If DMo wasn't injured, Morey can showcase one against the other in trades. And even if his goal is to trade TJ and keep DMo, he can still use an injury-free DMo to his advantage by saying "Hey GM from Team X, I've got a great trade lined-up for DMo, but would rather trade TJ. What do you have? TJ will be off the market if I make this other DMo trade."

    Now with DMo injured again, that bluff fails.
     
  8. Htownballer38

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    You can not hurt your team like that. Especially when making the playoffs is not a guarantee. Have you not been watching this team play this year. We're struggling big time.
     
  9. wekko368

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    Hasn't DMo already had an MRI that showed no damage? He's dealing with soreness and conditioning, right? That's not really "injury-prone".

    I don't think Morey has any intention of trading DMo. Benching DMo allows for Jones to play more minutes. Hopefully, in those extra minutes, he can increase his trade value. Once he's traded, we will be a better team.

    You're aware that Isiah Thomas isn't a GM anymore, right?
     
  10. daywalker02

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    He is probably thinking we are No 1 or No2 and sitting comfortably where we are, could afford losing couple of games.
     
  11. wekko368

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    Of course we can. Look at the big picture. We've been struggling for a while, but we're still the 7th seed. The 8th seed, Utah, has a losing record. The 9th seed, Sacramento, has a 15-22 record. So while making the playoffs isn't a guarantee, its still highly probable.

    And like I said, assuming Jones is traded around January 15th, we'd still have half a season left to play. That's plenty of time.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    You clearly did not watch the whole season. Jones did not cost McHale his job, Harden and others did. Bickerstaff will have good games and bad games, so this season is sort of over, they can make a run at the 2nd round but I am not really confident that is good in the long run. Giving hope to talented players but with a flawed concept under a rookie coach.
     
  13. wekko368

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    What're you talking about? Your whole post is an incoherent rant that has nothing to do with what I said. Did I say Jones was the reason McHale was fired?
     
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    Lol you guys with your explanations and theories for everything ... Jones is playing to raise his value ... Dmo is only faking injury .

    Idiots

    Jones playing at this point won't raise his value , if the members of clutch fans know he's sooo bad , so do other GM 's . There has been scouting information on him for 3 years and 10 games isn't going to change anyone's opinion .

    Dmo sitting for any other reason than he's sore and needs more rehab/ rest is asinine . The way he is going to get better is by playing . If he's not physically back yet then they brought him back too early and have had to sit him now to try and let him gain more strength.

    We may indeed trade jones on the 15th and Dmo may indeed become healthy around that time , please please please do not mistake this as confirmation you are right ... Things just happened to occur that way .

    I want Dmo back and I want jones out if we can get anything for him , but that is related to the opinion that Dmo will be healthy and montrezl can play sufficiently . I don't know what we are going to do at the deadline . Like Morey says , the talent is already here . For their current contracts , we can't get any better players ALMOST across the board . Now you can argue fit etc.... But our ceiling on paper hasn't changed because of these first half of games . Chemistry and how we play are the most important variables the rest of the year . If making a trade pushes those in the right direction then so be it .
     
  15. Htownballer38

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    Well I'm so glad that you're so confident in that belief. The thing is, I don't believe Morey or anybody in the Rockets organization shares that belief. I can guarantee you that never crossed their minds either.
     
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    With the exception of the 2nd Utah game where we were without Dwight, TJ hasn't really played more minutes than he did when DMo was active. Like, at all. If you're faking a DMo injury to showcase him, why would you keep his minutes the same as when DMo was in the lineup? And why in the world would you (rightfully) give a share of his minutes to Montrezl those couple of games?
     
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    And your point of making the playoffs is invalid. What is actually your point of making the playoffs? Extending JB? Giving false hope to flawed players that they can slack again in the offseason and wait for a pipe dream that is Durant? I am incoherent and you are saying we can afford to lose couple of games and still avoid 7th or 8th seed? There is no need to make the playoffs till they sort out management issues, what direction they want to take in the future.Morey should hire a team of assistant GMs, get a better coach, get better core players. We are still in this so called playoff race because some of the playoff teams do not have experience, have bad records.
    We quit being a contender when the season started and McHale was fired prematurely.
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  18. J Sizzle

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    This is an especially terrific GARM day.

    We've seen James Harden be called "no better than Marcus Thornton" and we've seen a conspiracy theory on DMo's injury to decrease his value. Normally you're lucky to get just one laughable statement such as these, yet today we've gotten double that!

    Truly a day to behold
     
  19. wekko368

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    The point of making the playoffs is to win a championship. Our players may be flawed, but if everyone is healthy and sober, we have enough talent to win.

    Management doesn't dictate the team's direction. The players do. We have the talent. Everyone just needs to get on the same page.

    LOL. Is that all? Simplicity itself.:rolleyes:
     
  20. wekko368

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    No one has said that. I guess that means today is just terrific, not "especially terrific".
     

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