3 Point shooting analytic video, the answer to our offensive issues

We simply have to use them

Rocket River

 

its one thing to have dwight and dmo. but for the rockets, its another thing to actually use them. lets see if they can figure that one out

 

Good video and it makes sense. But usually when the ball goes to Dwight, he's looking to score instead of passing the ball to the perimeter. TJones doesn't pass the ball very much. DMo can pass the ball, but he's also the most likely to be able to score from the low post. The Rockets do like to swing the ball around the perimeter, and usually fairly slowly. We used to hear a lot about playing inside out. Not so much lately.

 

DMo is the only post player we have who can make those passes out of the post on a consistent basis. Game needs to be played inside/out, obviously. Great post/video. Thanks for sharing!

 

That's how I envisioned the offense working when we got Dwight Howard.

I thought Howard would suck the defense in when he'd get the ball inside, and shooters would have a field day.

That combined with Harden's ability to drive to the bucket and kick it out, his ability to score at the rim, and the pick and roll ability of both Harden and Dwight, I thought the offense would be unstoppable.

 

The answer is too playing defense

 

Yep, post ups work.

DD

 

Why are people saying only Dwight and DMo should post-up?

We could postup harden too. Especially when DMo is on the court and is a strech 4...

Or if he hits Jones up, with time to ajust his shot.

He is such a slow shooter!

 

No doubt we should post up Harden.

DD

 

Wasn't this the whole entire offensive strategy Orlando rode to the finals in 2009? Basically surround Dwight with Lewis, Hedo, Nelson, and Reddick and just throw it into Dwight. You either get an open 3, a dunk, or put your opponent in foul trouble.

Dwight's shown he's capable of doing this.

 

Yes, and he was pretty good at it. Beyond me why we don't do this or at least run more P&Rs with him as the finisher.

We have so many great tools with Howard, Harden, Lawson and Motiejunas, it's baffling to see none of them utilized even remotely right.

 

Well it might be because while it is nice analysis, it isn't complete. Eg. correlation does not equal causation. This is 2015/16... it's not the same Dwight. He's a lesser offensive player pretty much across the board just from watching him.

Clearly, the Rockets need to throw it into Dwight/Dmo more and just move the ball more and better in general, but I wouldn't get too sucked in to the analysis. It's on point, but not the be all end all.

For whatever the Rockets organizationally - coaching, Harden, players, etc. - have lost faith in Dwight as a low post offensive option. I don't particularly blame them generally. He can certainly have efficient games, but his foul shooting, turnovers, and average or worst post game has scared them off. Add in the games missed and it becomes difficult for the team to commit to this approach.

 

I saw some Harden post-up and some Harden/Lawson two man action early in the year vs. OKC that looked so promising. Having a post-up will add so much mileage to his game. I didn't see it much after that game.

I agree that we need a more varied offense. I think the post-up is part of the solution. I don't think that Dwight should get many post-up touches unless he he's being guarded by a poor defender. He commits too many turnovers and takes too many bad shots for that to be effective. I do think we should utilize D Mo in those situations.

But I think we need a lot more than just the post-up to mix up our game. We need more off the ball action - movement and picks. We need better execution of the pick-and-roll. We need, quite frankly, better shooters. This offense needs a complete overhaul.

 

Nice post OP but what Harden decides to do is what dictates this teams play. If it results in reduced shot attempts for Harden or reduced personal stats for him, I'm not sure he will be for it.

 

I don't have the numbers. But from my eye test, Dwight is a black hole in the post. When he gets the ball down low, he either shoots it or turns it over. Seldom do I see him pass to an open shooter. It doesn't help that his post game is no longer respected by the defense that they bring double team which would free up perimeter shooters.

DMo is the opposite. His post moves are great. He passes out from the post well. But I feel that he passes to much and is not aggressive enough to get his own shot.

 

I've never seen it brought up - but whoever gives the green light for all the constant bounce passes through traffic to moving big men - needs to be smacked up side the head and told that ***** has to stop.

It is infuriating seeing Ariza begin to throw these passes - it was bad enough when Harden would connect on 1/3 or so.

 

our offense is supposed to be layups, free throws, and 3s... so why has it become only 3s?

when the ball gets swung around the perimeter, yes its a worse 3 point shot... so why not DRIVE in the paint while after swinging it around? the perimeter defense is out of position, its a great time to drive and kick!

yes we should be posting up dmo and even harden more... dwight only in favorable matchups unless you want him to average 5 turnovers a game. but no one even drives in for layups anymore! its just contested 3's.

 

Loved this analysis! No BIG surprise that the Warriors give their shooters the best opportunity to succeed. As well as why our % continues to be bad. Its odd because as far as the off the ball shots that setup the shooters the best, post pass and drive and kick, you'd think that having a team that moved it's offense through Harden (a known driver) and Howard (post) we'd be a much better team. We just aren't running this 3 point offense correctly. We still could be lethal if we gave the shooters a better chance to succeed.