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Hard to criticize Howard's effort level when he's a spectator on offense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Croatian Sensation, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. Buzzlite

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    If there's enough possessions in a game for Beverly stepbacks and Ariza fade aways then Howard should get more than 4 attempts, whether that's from a straight post up or a pin down every now and then
     
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  2. xtruroyaltyx

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    Dwight just needs to do what it takes to win games.

    Dwight needs to get really good position in order to get the ball because he's not a guy you want to throw it to a bunch of times while he's posting down on the block. He's not a great passer if he gets doubled...he's not a great scorer if he's not.

    He's turnover prone, can't make free throws and can put up some absolutely horrid shots.

    What he does need to do is set better screens on offense.
     
  3. xtruroyaltyx

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    A lot of times Dwight doesn't even get good position to get the ball.
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    Who needs more shots?

    The player thats #3 in the NBA in FG% and draws fouls loosening up the defense for others?

    Or the 3 rotation players shooting under 39% and below 32% from 3?

    If the Brick Bros were actually better options then you tell Dwight to focus on d. But he cant rebound every miss. I'm sure he realizes he can help just as much by dumping the ball into the rim himself.

    Its like we're telling Dwight to step up while still trying to give reasons to deny him. Dwight is shooting his same career FG%, though in different ways. Why keep trying to deny him opportunity when the alternatives arent making anything
     
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  5. rhino17

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    He is a terrible offensive player. Giving him post ups is a wasted possession. If that's the only way he can be motivated then he should be benched
     
  6. don grahamleone

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    Gives low energy on offense, so spectating is the way until it's not. This is all on Dwight. He's been given opps in the post and he just methodically went about his attack. He used to work until he had good position. Now he throws stuff up when he's so much better than that. He can go through a progression within his post moves, but he doesn't and he gets stopped. He needs to go back to his old ways.
     
  7. dharocks

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    I think there are ways to get Dwight more involved without posting him up. We're talking about maybe 2 more shots per game.
     
  8. Williamson

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    If Dwight was willing to do what he's actually good at and run the pick and roll he would get a lot more touches. He isn't. So he doesn't.
     
  9. Mazulis

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    It comes to simple math. Beard wants 30+ points, T-J 12+, Ariza 12+, Capela 8+,Greyhound 14+,Thorton16+,Lawson 10+,Beverly 12+, can't count D-mo (plays only 7 m/night ) you add that up, and no room for big dog to score. His teammates suck big time on %. Summarizing no offensive rebounds, no basket for DH.These selfish teammates expected Capela) in no ways will share ball with him. P.s total points are without him 114. Sad but we are waiting our time watching divas on the court.
     
  10. T_Man

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    So freaking an accurate... You and DD hate Howard so much that you both spill so much bad info..

    Howard has passed out of the double teams... Howard has looked for Capela, DMo and Jones down low... Actually DMo and Howard have looked for each other down low...

    No one is saying to make Howard the main man down low... Their saying to make him a part of the offense... Hell at this point the guards are not making any low post player a part of the offense.. Jones and DMo will get the ball once they step out to the perimeter, just freaking ridicules.

    DD is correct Howard has declined which every player does in his career, but the OP is correct.. Stop criticizing Howard when he's not even a part of the offense...

    This is one time the national media has it correct...

    T_Man
     
  11. Verbal Christ

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    I agree its up to the coach. Dumping it down low isn't the only way to keep your post players involved. comes down to running plays for him.

    What happened to the practice time with PNR offense between Harden and Howard? That's right they need more time, not the players, but the coach.

    Bickerstaff will be the reason this team misses the playoffs, bank on it.
     
  12. heypartner

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    Howard doesn't get doubled. Opposing teams seem to want him to attack when he gets the ball in the low post.
     
  13. DreamShook

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    Making Dwight a part of the offense is as simple as looking for him when he has his man pinned. And Dwight seals his man often just no one is looking at him. Position is a fleeting thing on the block too. Guards have to be aware of Dwight at all times.

    The easy buckets are there, but the guards have to be smart. Rockets literally have 2 players that know how to pass to Dwight when he doesn't have to make a move to get a bucket. Thornton and DMO. (Capela is getting better)
     
  14. T_Man

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    HP... He's not even getting the ball...

    You have to pass the ball down low to at least keep the defense honest... The only guard that was getting him the ball down low was Marcus and now he's benched...

    In the 1st half of the game... I think he got less than 5 touches down low.. I would love to know how may touches DMo got down low...

    But it's ridicules how we have guards that don't know how to get the ball down low to the post players...

    Is this a product of Morey or McHale and JB is still keeping the tradition???

    We could get Hakeem in his prime and it wouldn't matter since these guys will not get the ball to him.

    T_Man
     
  15. T_Man

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    Exactly!!!!!!!!

    I have seen Howard and DMo have their man pinned and the guard will look and then back out to pass to a wingman to take a 3... UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE!!!!!

    T_Man
     
  16. SF3isBack!!

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    Yes but he's refusing to do other things to get involved. He still has delusions that he will be like Hakeem.
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    Dwight usually does that when he's at an odd angle and half the time his hands are on the other player so he gets and offensive or misses the pass. Are you guys even watching the games? The Rockets don't hate Dwight, they would love to get him involved, he's just not good at posting up and he blames everyone else. It's the same as Harden not being good at defense and blaming everyone else they both need to take responsibility.
     
  18. T_Man

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    Come on man... This is just pure crap... Howard is not the greatest offensive player, but I have seen him get his man pinned down low and they are not even looking for him...

    I have seen DMo have his man pinned and they want pass it to him...

    T_Man
     
  19. heypartner

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    And when he does, he doesn't get doubled. Quit saying he gets doubled. He's becoming a black hole, like he wants to prove he's an elite low-post Center.

    And fwiw: in the LAL and CHA games recently. He got the ball 5 times on pins. He was 0-5 on those possessions. I've posted all 5 of those plays in another thread.

    Pin or set play,,,he's just not good enough of a low post offensive player to yell on this BBS about, as if he's the key. He's a part but he is not a key offensive weapon. He is a key on the defensive end. And he deserves no excuses, if he doesn't bring intensity to our defense "Night in, and Night Out." :)
     
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  20. SF3isBack!!

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    First off the Media is calling Howard weak I dont know what you are watching. They are correct BTW. Secondly the media is saying that it's not Harden fault even though he is partly to blame. You say I'm not accurate and then proceed to refute something I never said, lol. Howard is a horrible out of the post passer. He is a horrible free throw shooter. He has regressed. He can barely catch the passes given to him and he refuses to set real picks. I don't hate Dwight Howard just because I recognize his failings, I'm just being honest.
     

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