Everyone had the same hype for the prequels and everyone hated those. This point is wrong. I agree with all the points the red letter media people made. <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AvsiJppCdmk" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe> Star Wars had a few specific goals it need to accomplish and it did. Mainly create new characters that are intriguing, likable, and mysterious.
I would say that most of the people I know that aren't really Star Wars enjoyed the prequels. It's the actual Star Wars lovers that typically have the blood hatred of them, because of that it kind of became cool to hate them, regardless of your personal feelings. The new one got it right in the fact that it has the action, SFX, and humor that have made the marvel movies so successful. Plus they recaptured the feel, and I'm not talking about the blatant plot similarities, of the originals so the fans of the franchise enjoyed it as well.
The prequels were awful... as were every decision that was made in regards to it. According to the OT, Yoda was Obi-Wan's master.... it all got changed, for the worse. There's definitely a better prequel story out there... maybe one day we'll get a chance to hear it.
So, there was some article that came across Yahoo about the stars and their salaries for this movie. Yep...went right into a major spoiler. I couldn't believe it and it looked like an intentional bait and spoil tactic. No warning. That's bull****.
I'm surprised by the negativity in this thread considering the reviews. I didn't hate the 2 newer prequels. 3 was better than 6 to me. 6 isn't even that interesting on its own, episode 3 makes it more powerful. Anyways, this was probably my favorite Star Wars movie. 2nd favorite at worst next to Empire Strikes Back.
That is exactly what I thought. It was a good movie but it didn't blow me away. Spoiler It was a blatant copy from Star Wars. The entire story line was exactly the same. That was disappointing I did watch it at the Showboat Drive-In in Hockley. That was my first drive-in movie since Ferris Bueller's Day Off at the I-45 Drive In. Other than constantly having to start my truck because it automatically turns off accessories after 15 minutes, it was a pretty fun experience.
Most people enjoyed the movie, so we're in the backlash phase. The fact that it was a glorified remake of the original bothers some people a ton, which is a legitimate complaint. It didn't bother me much at all because I loved the original, and this is the original with better FX. Its properly sets the stage for the sequels. How they handle the remakes will retroactively color my view of the Force Awakens. If the next one is simply ESB remixed, I won't be quite so forgiving.
I don't care for Marvel movies other than Guardians and i did enjoy AntMan but i doubt i ever watch it again. Superhero movies to me are all too generic for me these days. I'm also tired of seeing movies try and recreate that Dark Knight grounded darker theme in every movie that comes out of any genre. I loved TFA. As a first of the trilogy, i think it was a great way to reintroduce us to that universe with an action adventure style film that JJ is very good at. Next up is the darker, more serious film which is what Rian Johnson is great at and then end it all with the family feel good story that i WISH Brad Bird would be doing, but Colin Treverow has done a decent job with. I love and adore and treasure the Star Wars OT but i see their faults as well. Empire Strikes Back is probably my all time favorite film. It's perfect and the only thing i would ever be okay with changing or editing in it would be to update the Wampa at the start of the movie. It looks too fake and like a very cheap Halloween costume. It would only be a quick CGI Wampa cut anyway. There's something else i would allow also-but ill mention that below. I respect a lot about the Prequels. John Williams did an amazing job all 3 films- much better than TFA which seems to be more of a rehashed OT score with Rey's new theme. I LOVE the designs of Coruscant. It has a very Blade Runner feel to it. When George did use set locations, they were very beautiful most notably on Naboo. I think they tried harder to show all the different planets. Something i'm afraid the new trilogy is not going do to. Just using earth like dessert, snow and jungle environments becomes boring. You have to be more creative than that. There's no reason why they can't use a real set location + CGI to give it an alien like look. Throw in also more creatures on each planet as well. At the end of TFA when Rey is walking through the islands, we see a bunch of birds everywhere and it just annoys me. It just throws you off and you know its a location on earth. I would allow for the Dagobah liazrds and snakes in ESB to be turned into different cgi creatures for the same reason. So overall i feel like the prequels did a better job of adding to the look of Star Wars than the OT or TFA have done. You have to show heavily populated and advanced planets/cities and you have to show different environments. I think the prequels also did a great job with costumes. I feel like the Jedi using mostly robes because Obi Wan and Luke did on desert planets is poorly thought out. I guess they are basically monks, but if that is the case, they should only train and work in ancient Jedi temples and go on humanitarian/protection missions throughout the galaxy instead of having a big fancy jedi temple in the middle of the capital. That gives me the same feeling when i see massive luxurious churches all over the city. I instantly think corruption when i see that. Why would the Jedi with all of their strict rules want to live and train in such a place? The over reliance of CGI was terrible or at least just too soon. If they waited til 2008 or so to make the prequels, they probably would have more believable CGI. It's not just the CGI and green screen that kills it. It's the dialogue and script. It was as if it was written by a 15 year old who let his little 10 year old brother give him some ideas and then their Dad comes in and adds politics. -The love story feels so fake and made up. No one bought into Padme loving Anakin. I'm sure most of the audience thought Anakin was eventually going to rape her because that was the only way they'd have kids in real life. Only a young teen just starting puberty would think of such a love story. -The droid army was the 10 year old's idea. There was no threat. They are dumb little robots who were programmed to make jokes and act as clueless and clumsy as possible. They were built by a child. What the hell were they thinking? Even the designs are garbage. They look weak and fragile or something from a 1950s sci fi...when George was a kid. -The politics. I will not bother. In the end, there are some fan edits that try and remove as many pointless scenes from the theatrical cut of the prequels including all droids talking and all flat jokes. It helps them become watchable and i'm actually in the mood now to try them out again. I'd like to see them edited with film grain to better match the OT and lessen the cheap look of all the CGI. So with all of that said, i'm okay with the PT remaining part of the canon. I'm okay with the faults of TFA because there were faults in the OT too. It will be a good final trilogy that i doubt moves me like the OT did, but i don't expect it to because i'm not an innocent child with a clean hard drive anymore. My HD is filled with p*rn, heartbreak, nostalgia, regrets and viruses.
Thought The Force Awakens was great as an Avid Star wars fan. My Rankings: Empire Strikes Back A New Hope The Force Awakens Revenge of the Sith Return of the Jedi Attack of the Clones The Phantom Menace Thought they could've used Captain Phasma better as she should've been the one to fight Finn instead of a random Storm Trooper with a different blade. I like Snoke's character and Ren as an evolving character but not a fan of Snoke's CGI/Motion Capture.
I'm watching some of the prequels for the first time in a long time(AOTC) and already i am noticing that everything has a very retro sci fi feel to it. The hair. The furniture. The spaceship designs. I think Lucas was trying to go for 50s-70s era style sci where the OT was 80s style in order to make everything look like it was from many years before ANH. Where he went wrong was he failed to make a transition. Everything is clean and pretty which is fine, but it should have been dirtier and war torn as the trilogy went on and he should have started to introduce style and design of later decades throughout the end of the trilogy to really start the tie in. TPM should have had early 50's style and sci fi concepts. 10 years later AOTC should have had early 60s style and sci fi concepts which it sort of has. ROTS takes place 3 years later where you keep most of the same style with some 70s style and sci fi concepts thrown in for the close resemblance to the 80s. 19 years later- ANH starts with 80s style concepts and styles.
Funny - TFA is a beat for beat retelling of A NEW HOPE Make Luke a Girl . . .Han a black man Not exactly the same but closer to it . . .than Marvel is to the Nolan Movies Rocket River
About Finn... Spoiler Are we sure he's just a black Han? Not to disrespect Han as he's one of the most popular and impactful characters in the Star Wars universe. I don't think there is a problem with him being that, just watching the movie though... I think he's force sensitive. There seems to be a few things that make me think so. -Kylo Ren. He notices that something is not right with Finn. Now, it could be that he just felt his emotions were not in line with the rest of his storm troopers. It could just be that I admit. -Maz hands him the lightsaber of all weapons. Maz also has this odd reaction to Finn. I mean it's something else to see a scared man, it's something else entirely to get into his face and look into his eyes and tell him of the fear he has. - Why is Finn the only stormtrooper to break the conditioning? He just has a good heart? No other trooper does? - Finn fights Kylo with Luke's saber. Not only this but he actually hurts Kylo. This is pretty inconceivable for a non-force user to even get a lucky hit in against a trained one in lightsaber battle, he should barely be able to parry his attacks. Pretty sure Finn is the only non-force sensitive person to do the things he's done with a saber. So yeah, I dunno. I think there is more to Finn than he's just going to be the new Han hero. In that he's going to be the every man guy that gets buy with luck, charm, and courage.
I think thats a fair assessment to make. The prequels had a lot of nice eye candy in terms of CGI and effects and of course especially compared to the originals its not going to look as visually pleasing. The story though for the prequels were just so poorly done. The core of the story was there, the childhood and development of Anakin and then his descent to the dark side. But just poorly executed from the dialogue and scenes. RotS was so mind numbing especially the ending was just complete BS. My overall biggest gripe with the prequels was I felt they failed to show how powerful of a Jedi Anakin was. We just are told he is the chosen one but never see him being that amazing Jedi. He loses his hand against Dooku the first time and then was able to defeat him later. I heard we see a lot of him in the Clone Wars animated series but how many average movie fans of the series will watch that? Like it didnt feel like it was that big of a deal that Anakin turned when it should have been a huge freakin deal. As for TFA - I think it more than accomplished what the main objectives were. 1) make disney a lot of money 2) get people talking about Star Wars again in a positive light 3) introduce new characters in the movie universe people actually like (Kylo Ren, BB-8, Poe, Rey and Finn) 4) pay respect/homage to the original trilogy Were there things that felt out of place or missing? sure! Too similar in story to ANH? Possibly. But to me it was a great film overall start to finish and help actually move the story in a positive way. I guess for me I was excited to see Episode 1 and afterwards I just didnt care and saw episode 2 and 3 because I felt I had to because they were Star Wars movies. I wasn't amped to see them. I went into TFA with an open mind and optimism since it was JJ Abrams and now I really want to see Episode 8 and 9. I think most people are more excited to see the future episodes now more than they were when episode 2 and 3 were coming out.
Spoiler To Continue with Finn.. When he asked for a weapon, Maz says "You have a weapon" It may be that he is force-sensitive and she senses that. Light saber is the weapon of a jedi. Early in the movie, Finn keeps asking for a Blaster because that is what he knows and is good using that. There is a reason he is given that light saber by Maz. Maybe to "awaken" something in him.
Spoiler You are missing the point. There is a reason Rey was able to fly the Falcon. There is a reason she was able to use Force powers and was good with the light saber. She was surprised she knew how to fly the falcon that well. She was surprised that was able to use the Jedi mind trick. I think by the time the light saber battle happened, she knew (or remembered) the force was with her. This movie was the setup. The answers start with the next movie.....Who is Rey? Who is Finn? Who is Snoke? Why did Luke leave? How did Snoke turn Kylo Ren?
