I'm sure they can reboot the entire universe again later down the road but they can't edit the Prequels or Clone Wars cartoon and i doubt they can reboot only the prequels to make their own versions for canon. They basically had to agree that the prequels and clone wars are official canon.
I don't know if that was laughable. I thought it was cool. He basically threatens him to return to what works-clone troopers over his project of raising children to be soldiers. That planet wasn't coruscant. It was the new capital of the republic which is very similar.
The point is that they could have been meant to be watched in numerical order. Just because 4-6 had been out for a long time didn't mean that they had to make 1-3 bad movies. They could have made them as if they were individual episodes that built on eachother. Had they done that, less people would hate them. That said, they'd have had to have brought in a more competent director than Lucas to make them look good, he just doesn't have the talent or creativity anymore. Episode 7 was awesome, there's no reason episodes 1-3 couldn't have been.
Wasn't it all basically Steven Spielbergs fault? Lucas wanted him to do Episode I and then was going to find 2 different directors for II and III, but Spielberg told Lucas it was his baby and he alone should direct. I can't remember exactly where i read this or saw this, but i know i did.
Yeah just like jakku is not tatooine. The clones were a bad idea used ONLY to justify Obi saying clone wars. This referenced it in a "don't worry, there will be no clones"
Ok, so it's Speilberg, Ron Howard, and Robert Zemekis's fault for what we ended up with because they didn't have the balls to do Star Wars and possibly fail. “[Lucas] didn’t necessarily want to direct them. He told me he had talked to Robert Zemeckis, Steven Spielberg, and me. I was the third one he spoke to. They all said the same thing: ‘George, you should do it!’ I don’t think anybody wanted to follow-up that act at the time. It was an honor, but it would’ve been too daunting.”-Ron Howard
Episode 7 wasn't awesome. It was just a bunch of borrowing from the earlier movies. Its success is more proof that people were happy to have Star Wars without a bunch of cartoonish CGI again. Rey is great. Love her character. Finn was okay, I'd like to see him be more useful. I'm sure he'll grow as a character though. Poe seemed like a solid character. I liked Kylo Ren until he removed his mask. I think that choice, in how it was done was a mistake. If it had been a new storyline around them, I think it could have been awesome, but they built a storyline too similar to the one before it.
There's way too much of this going on in this thread... and not enough there to actually prove it. There's a lot more to the story-line that was intentionally left out... Rey's background, why Luke truly exiled himself, who really is the "supreme leader", the "new" republic, Rey's force "awakening"... Sure... there's a new order that has its origins in what the empire was and built super-weapons like the empire did. Sure, Rey's a young would-be jedi who was on a sand-like planet. And they hide the secret map in a droid like the stolen plans were hidden in a droid... If the above similarities lessen the movie for you, simply because they're similar to what's been done before... I feel you're actually missing the more crucial plot points that were actually original and do stand on its own.... and these are what will be expanded upon in the next two movies. Its almost like dis-liking them rehashing "light side vs. dark side", or them rehashing father-son issues, or them rehashing somebody turning to the dark side.... you're not going to get any sort of star wars story that does not have some of these elements. Episode 7 runs circles around anything the prequels tried to develop, plot-wise... and its not just because they avoided CGI.
I've not seen too many people feel this way. You can fairly argue that it's derivative, or that it has some glaring plot holes, but I have a hard time seeing how it's not entertaining.
You know in college where you copy and paste someone else's paper and then change a few things up just to make it seem like you wrote it all yourself? Well that's what this movie was when compared to A New Hope, just a rehash. There were a lot of new elements here, but the spine of the movie was let's make it just like A New Hope but change just enough so that the majority of people don't complain about it. This movie was good, but it's one movie in and it's already cookie-cutter just like the Marvel movies from Disney. The old movies were charming, this one tries to be but it's fake charming. I've lost a lot of hope for the franchise under Disney's watch after watching TFA. It will never come close to matching the magic of the original trilogy, heck it doesn't even match the quirks and personality that the Prequel Trilogy had under Lucas. This movie was just contrived and formulaic.
It's not. Apparently the "New" Republic made it's capital somewhere else. It's just the same idea somewhere else. What's going to piss more people off than anything is that now all the EU related things...the books....tv shows.... anything with a disney logo and star wars on it.....is official canon....and you can't just watch the movies and say only the things explicitly stated int he movies count.
I actually enjoyed the prequels since I was in middle school when Phantom Menace came out. So I guess I was the right demographic (although not even a little kid could like Jar Jar). However upon rewatching it years later, it was truly garbaje. I do wonder if the whole midichlorians will ever be mentioned again in any future movies. That was weird.
People are too nostalgic over the originals. A New Hope is really quite slow and if it were to come out today with the same story and only updated visuals, there would probably be a ton of bad reviews. That duel between Vader and Kenobi is just embarrassing. ROTJ pretty much sucks other than all the scenes with Vader and the Emperor and the duel. The end celebration/cremation is iconic for me too though. I'll give credit for the chase scene on Endor which was innovative at the time, but the Ewok's were crap and everyone except Luke, Vader and the Emperor were just throw aways. The Jabba Palace looked so cheaply made. The saarlac pit was an amateur action scene. ESB is really the only film of the entire franchise that can hold its own from start to finish against some of the greatest films ever made. All the real and true magic comes from ESB, with Yoda's introduction and the magic of the force he introduces us to. It's also the big reveal after an amazing duel in which would never have happened if ESB came out today. It would have been common knowledge during the filming of ANH that Vader is Lukes father. Nothing can be kept secret anymore. So no. That magic won't ever be reproduced for you and many others. Star Wars was from a time where all these visual effects were new so it blew so many young minds away. Now it's overused in every movie to the point where most movies these days look generic and similar. I understand if this movie looks no different from Marvel movies, etc. I also understand that all of these new movies are still magic to young children like we all once were. I get that there are similarities to ANH with some elements of ESB and ROTJ thrown in, but i see enough original material that i don't think too much on the other stuff. I'm also aware of George himself saying these films all have to rhyme like poetry.
This trilogy might need its own Yoda/Gollum to be introduced in the next movie. A truly original and iconic creature design. I'm just afraid it might feel too forced to recapture the brilliance of Yoda. I still have so many deep emotions for all Yoda scenes in ESB and ROTJ. Yoda was true magic.
I feel like some people just like to hate on what the vast majority like. Somewhere out there I imagine there's someone that tells people that they thought the Godfather was a "real turd" of a movie. When over 90% think a movie is good, the odds are pretty solid that people trashing it are just doing so to sound like a rebel.
I saw speculation somewhere that Kylo could have been derived from his parents' names. sKYwalker/soLO. Ren is the group that he leads.
