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(Stein) Rockets have interest in Markieff Morris

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketpower2, Dec 6, 2015.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    Let's see.
    Hill: don't have opinion because I haven't watched Indy enough.
    Tristan Thompson : Wildly overpaid, doesn't have any real offensive skill can't create his own shot. Would take Morris 100% esp with the price.

    Taj Gibson : doesn't have ankles, 30 y.o
    Frye...: LOL will take Morris 200% since I don't want the pf to be the epitome of a black hole defensively
    Splitter: Don't want my backup pf (btw he's mostly a C but whatever) to be injured all the time.
    Lee: ??? seriously? Defence = 0 , but provides good highlights when he gets blocked.
    Olynyk : we will see about that, because this year he has improved his defence.
    KOQ: better contract, but godamn a foul machine.
    Nene: ...:rolleyes: yeah sorry Codman but will take Morris over Nene.
    Henson: I dont' want my backup big to be a chipotle loving weakling who has managed to lose playing time even to Plumplee. As a bucks fan I would trade Henson in 2 minutes to get Morris. Btw Henson isn't a pf he's a c.
    Diaw/West : yes better than Morris fit also Spurs system. Too bad too old, but then so is there core.
    Kanter: I would take Morris 10000000% over Kanter. The worst big in defence in the league who can't pass and who has this horror as a contract.
    Smith: Well..Smith does things Morris can't, but also Morris is more reliable..
    Dwight Powell : Don't have an opinion. Haven't watched enough of Mavs bball.
    Wright : I would take Wright over Morris.
    Dmo and T.JONES?? Dmo is not a backup. And I would take Morris over Jones.
    Ed Davis: meh..
    Rhyno: Will take Morris over him, because Rhyno is always injured and possibly one of the worst defenders as a pf.
    Tarik Black? I would take Morris over Black who is now in the D-league assigned.
     
  2. crash5179

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    Well, you definitely love you some Markief. If a non-rebounding pore scoring option is your thing. IMO, Morris isn't the type of player you want to be committed to for multiple years guaranteed. I would much rather take a 30 year old for a couple of seasons and see what he has after that.

    One thing that sticks out to me is that you said you would take Markief 1000 times over Kanter. Really? Kanter is a legit offensive weapon that rebounds. You are right about Kanter sucking defensively, I agree but coming off the bench to provide a scoring punch and rebounding it's Kanter hands down.

    I guess the only two things people keep talking about is Morris's mid range game which is not consistent and his defense which has been solid at times but has never been game changing. Offensively he is firmly an "F" and that can't be disputed using stats or anything I've ever seen on TV. Thats not to say he has never had a good offensive game but overall, he is putrid.

    TJ is another you like less than Morris. TJ is so much better offensively than Markief that I don't even see where the discussion is. TJ has improved his 3pt shot every single season and is now over 40% for the season. TJ actually looks really good coming off of the bench.

    Is Morris having a bad season or a typical season? His career stats suggest this is more of a typical year than an anomaly.

    I don't think Markief would see many minutes ahead of Capela and DMo as he just doesn't offer the Rockets anything. Hitting 40% of his field goals would not keep him on the floor at all. This is his 5th season and his 3rd shooting under .410 so I'm guessing he is what he is.

    By the way, did you refer to me as codman? Why?
     
  3. DuDDleyDawsonII

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    He said sooy Codman because Codman knows Nene or Nene 's family .
     
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  4. Rocket4Life11

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    No thanks.

    Do not want.
     
  5. DuDDleyDawsonII

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    Meant to say Sorry
     
  6. KlutchQT

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    Goodness, I love Kyle O'Quinn.
     
  7. malakas

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    This isn't his typical year. He's tanking his own value to force them to trade him. (He does't speak to the FO. LOL).
    And it's precisely because there is the risk of being tied to him with his issues that he is available otherwise Phoenix would be crazy to trade him.
    In the end is a very good chances risk. If he goes to jail the contract will be null.
    In 2-3 years his contract will be what either 10th men get or over the hill ex-star vets in their last legs.

    I wouldn't touch Kanter with a ten foot pole. I said it in the game thread but people use the word bad defence to describe a lot of levels of suckiness.
    Kanter is the most level of bad defence. You can't hide him unless you have one guy in the league Ibaka (and mayyyybbbee in a couple of years porzingis and Towns) and even then next to Ibaka he lowers the DRTG.
    What's the point of offensive punch off the bench when the opponents bench manages to take a breather and have a carpet to the paint , and of course dont' even think to ever play him in 4rth quarters or crunch times. EVER.

    That's not all. He also does't pass. Tunell vision. He is literally blind when it comes to passing the ball, which for someone who gets double teamed is very serious flaw.
    And I haven't started about his contract. One of the worst contract in the league which I think also has a tradekicker bonus :grin:

    I hope people paid more attention when they suggested we should go in FA with TWO rfa and Dwight hanging over our heads. This is all due to Portland screwing the Thunder and if we do the same and worst will happen since we will have a target mark on our backs.

    I will take Morris over Jones because Jones is a magnet of injuries and will get paid much more, possibly double of what Morris makes.
    Yes exactly.
    He fouls too much and this is the second team that he is already in the coach doghouse. Something going on here.
     
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    If Markieff the new Rubio???

    Honestly id rather BBHollic have been right about the Rubio "insider" trade than people be right now about this Markieff rumor.
     
  9. malakas

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    lmao :grin:

    It's a salary dump. Do you prefer to watch Brew or Morris? Ask yourself that.
     
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    Only way I'm interested in Markieff is if he modifies his contract and makes the last 3 years of his deal non-guaranteed. Sound familiar? :cool:
     
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    I think Brewer is better for this team on and off the court and his contract ends a year earlier and is declining slightly. Give me Brew any day.
     
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    Marqueef babyyyy
     
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    On the open market with today's going rate for PFs coupled with a ton of teams flush with cap room to spend, Morris just might consider that.
     
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    Agreed. If he knows he's gonna get past his court case fine and he knows he's gonna turn it on and ball then I could very easily see him agreeing to do that.

    But think about this for a minutes....if he really turns it on and ups his value and then he gets waived...then the odds become good that another team picks him up off the waiver wire.
     
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    Trading Brew for Markieff isn't a salary dump unless Markieff modifies his contract. Markieff is owed an extra year and has a slightly higher cap hit anyways.

    I would actually prefer watching Brew at this point. I haven't seen anything from Markieff his entire career other than mediocrity. Doesn't shoot well enough to be effective or efficient. But shoots just good enough to justify jacking shots and chewing possessions on a crappy team. Doesn't defend well enough. Has major attitude problems.

    Brewer, for all his negatives, isn't a negative in the locker room. Brewer is somewhat dense and he has poor judgment and a lacking character off the court. But he's not wanting to fight and carouse. That's off the court admittedly. On the court, Brewer jacks a lot of shots I don't care for but one thing you can bank on is he'll get his share of steals and help his teammates get their share of steals with his defensive peskiness.

    Overall for my money I'd gamble on 2 more seasons of Brewer going up and down with his shooting and making some bad on-court decisions than I would 3 more years of Markieff and not knowing from one day to the next whether he's gonna pout and sulk and raise hell in the locker or throw up a pile of crappy 18 footers and lolly gag on the defensive end.

    I just don't have much use for Markieff. I think I'd rather have Terrence for 3 more seasons at Markieff's salary than to have Markieff. That's how little I think of Markieff right now.
     
  16. malakas

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    I'm sure Lawson's successful results in doing that will encourage him to take that step...NOT.
    Markieff isn't a negative in the lockeroom. He is negative on the court and in interviews with radio hosts and with the techs, but as far I know he is pretty friendly with his teammates.
    Except that Jones at markieff's salary is NOT an option.
    And I rather have Markieff than have to watch Brew keep playing like that while he starts to lose speed his greatest "skill", now that he gets on the wrong side of 30.
     
  17. KlutchQT

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    Idc, I'd take him in a heartbeat. Insane to me how incredibly productive he is, even in limited minutes.
     
  18. malakas

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    He might get traded as might Rolo. :p But with his great contract now his value is much better than when he was in the doghouse in Orlando.

    Phil has made great decisions this summer...however both his centers don't fit well, and Quinn as I said is already in Fish's doghouse for some reason.
     
  19. KlutchQT

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    He's suddenly in the rotation over the last week and a half or so, so he may well be traded. Not much for him to do there when Kristaps is rolling anyway.
     
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    Hornaeck said he would discuss possible discipline with the team for Morris for throwing a towel at Hornaeck during the game from the bench
     

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