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When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Major

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    Except that GOP turnout wasn't abnormally low in 2012.
     
  2. Major

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    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324352004578133120431803606


    Even as Republicans have engaged in some agonizing over their candidate and agenda, many have sought comfort in the notion that a big part of the loss came down to simple mechanics. President Obama had a stunning Election Day operation, which turned out his base. Mitt Romney's shop, by contrast, failed to get people to the polls. That explanation is soothing because it suggests that, in the future, all the GOP needs is a slicker piece of get-out-the-vote software.

    It's also broadly wrong.

    The turnout myth comes from a statistic that has been endlessly repeated: Mitt Romney got fewer votes than John McCain in 2008. This isn't quite true (Mr. Romney this week eked past the McCain totals), and in any event it is somewhat irrelevant. The Romney vote count reflects a nationwide voter turnout that was down nearly five percentage points from 2008. What matters is how the GOP did in the battleground states.

    And there? Mr. Romney beat Mr. McCain's numbers in every single battleground, save Ohio. In some cases, his improvement was significant. In Virginia, 65,000 more votes than in 2008. In Florida, 117,000 more votes. In Colorado, 52,000. In Wisconsin, 146,000. Moreover, in key states like Florida, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia, Mr. Romney turned out even more voters than George W. Bush did in his successful re-election in 2004.

    By contrast, Mr. Obama's turnout was down from 2008 in nearly every battleground. He lost 54,000 votes in Virginia, 46,000 votes in Florida, 50,000 votes in Colorado, 63,000 votes in Wisconsin. Ditto Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio. The only state where Mr. Obama increased his votes (by 36,000) was North Carolina, and he was still beaten by a Romney campaign that raised its own turnout by a whopping 147,000.
     
  3. B-Bob

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    Seems to me that you are listing the qualities of an effective partisan legislator; not a president...
     
  5. prohibido

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    Baylorbob's attempts at condescension are particularly hilarious because he has never demonstrated any capacity for original thought and because the stupidity that he does demonstrate is equally brutal and boundless.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    Otto with the effective demolition of bobby marley. He's so bent out of shape he's losing his damn mind.

    That was awesome. lol
     
  7. CometsWin

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    If only another 10 MILLION voters had shown up, Romney would have won. ;)

    I hope this thread survives through the election. There's just gold in here, pure gold.
     
  8. Deckard

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    What a joke. Whenever you get your head out of the sand, Commodore, be sure to clean it out of your ears and eyes. I won't say you are dumb, just blind and deaf. With all due respect.
     
  9. Nook

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    just reading this "exchange" is cringeworthy but oddly interesting.... It is akin to watching a blindfolded r****ded child run in circles as he is being beaten by a stick to the head.
     
  10. Haymitch

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    You would find that interesting?
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    Aww, those meanie lefties are hurting Teddy Cruz's fweelings. Who knows, they might draw him as a monkey, or question his religion, or make fun of his name. Oh wait...
     
  12. percicles

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    I'm still waiting for Latino Tracy Flick to win a debate.
     
  13. sirbaihu

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    I'm super mad! :mad: :eek: Are you implying that Cruz's family is a bunch of rapists just coz he has a Mexican/Arab/whatever name? I'm 51% sure Cruz's mom did not rape his dad. And I thought it was 100% clear that only the people whose skin is darker than a paper bag are rapists, and he is like whiter than toilet paper (before I used it). Go back to the Japanese relocation camp, u KKK not-rapist-but-voluntarily-make-out-wither.
     
  14. ima_drummer2k

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    Actually, the exact opposite is true. It's the tea party clowns that have been having a perpetual meltdown since Obama was elected. And ruining the Republican party in the process. The dems are laughing at us...

    This is like making it to the Superbowl, then suddenly benching your star QB and starting your 3rd string QB simply because no one expects you to.

    Obama was unbeatable, but Hillary is very beatable. Kasich would destroy her in the general. He already has Ohio in the bag. But he'll never make it out of the primary because the "anti-establishment" crowd thinks he's a liberal.

    This is the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Well reasoned post which actually takes reality into account.
     
  16. Dubious

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    Yes even you moderates are delusional ( Kasich at 8:00)

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  17. Rashmon

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    I assumed everyone, including other wingnuts, had bobmarley on ignore. At least the cyclical treeman meltdowns are entertaining.
     
  18. B-Bob

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    He does need to articulate his fingers a bit, no?
     
  19. Baba Booey

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    Wow! lol. Kasich really needs to dial that back. I bet his handlers were going crazy because they have probably told him to stop doing that dozens of times.
     
  20. Commodore

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