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This is NOT Daryl Morey's fault

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Kwame

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    Typical Clutchfans bs... Maury gets all the credit when things go well, but none of the blame when things are terrible. Stop being victims of propaganda and learn to think for yourselves. Separate yourselves from homerism and be independent thinkers. Once you do these things you'll see the validity of the criticisms that people like me have been articulating about Maury for a long time. One fluke WCF Finals appearance as a result of perfect storm doesn't change anything.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Great argument breaking down how this is Moreys fault.

    So convince

    Wow
     
  3. Nook

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    More cheddar bay biscuits and I don't know what salad dressing this is supposed to be, but it isn't italian... take it back and give me blue cheese.
     
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  4. RV6

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    You can blame Morey for picks and role players...but Les has to take the blame for Harden and Dwight. Les wanted to re-tool like this, which means Morey had to get whatever stars he could, as quickly as possible. I can't blame him for coming up short on the other guys, he went after them, and they didn't want to come here. He almost made Dwight/Bosh/CP/Harden/Bev happen. CP would have still hurt his knee, but that would have been one hell of lineup to put together.

    It starts with your stars though...that influences their teammates and the potential FAs. So, Les shares more of the blame, IMO.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    So . . . . Who hired McHale . . . Morey or Les-y?
    [morey or lessy . . .lol. . .. . *ahem* . .. . back to the post]
    So . . . . Who fired McHale . . . Morey or Les-y?

    I think we have plenty of talent
    The application of the Talent is the problem . . . More or Less

    Rocket River
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Who cares? This isn't a coaching issue
     
  7. Rocket River

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    You don't think so?

    Rocket River
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Definitely not. Coaches aren't baby sitters. They can't monitor what's going on with these guys personally
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    They can deal with it on the floor and in the locker room.

    DD
     
  10. Drogba

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    The biggest problem on this team is there's no clearcut 2nd option. Dwight Howard was supposed to be that player but he's continually shown he's clearly not. You can't throw the ball to him when James is struggling and tell him to get you a basket. Either he'll turn it over, badly miss the robotic post move or get fouled and brick the impending free-throws.

    There's a certain hierarchy in every great team

    Warriors: Curry > Klay > Green
    Spurs: Kawhi > LMA > Parker
    Cavs: LeBron > Kyrie > Love
    Thunder: Westbrook > Durant > Waiters
    Clippers: Griffin > Paul > Redick

    We don't have that sort of structure here. It's what leads to the gamely chaos and scoring droughts. The constant uncertainty leads to heroball plays which cause the bad shots & backbreaking turnovers. That's why it's mainly Morey's fault. Last season's roster had no business being the 2nd seed as shown by our absurdly low SRS for a team that finished so high.
     
  11. kjayp

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    I agree! I keep waiting for Harden to get pulled for the snail like meandering bringing the ball upcourt bs that kills our rhythm and cuts our shot clock by a third or in half... but it never happens...

    "oh he might get upset...blah blah blah.." What's he gonna do? Pass up open shots when he has the hot hand? Not play defense? Be aloof to his teammates? not focus and give his best effort? ...too late..
     
  12. FanSince93

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    This. So true.

    At least this annoying MOFs have passed the full denial phase.
     
  13. FanSince93

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    How is the pay to work for Morey PR machine? :grin:
     
  14. Nook

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    The Rockets have options... They have James Harden and Ty Lawson in the back court alone. The problem is that they are TERRIBLE at execution. They don't run plays properly, they don't switch properly, they turn the ball over, don't hit free throws and don't rebound. It is so bad that the coaching staff has dumbed down the assignments to just basics and the team still isn't executing even close to what they should be.

    Is that coaching? Well I think some of it is, but some of these guys haven't executed anywhere they have been. The difference is that coaches like Popovich or Carlisle or Thibs would look at Morey and say "get rid of these clowns", when players lacked the aptitude to adjust and execute.
     
  15. kjayp

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    C'mon, man... WHO wasn't giddy about this roster before the season? Once we added Lawson, I (along with 99% of this board) were figuring on a great season... still had concerns about McHale... but o/w everyone was geeked...

    Nobody figured on the Kardassian factor... or whatever the reason may be... lol
     
  16. daywalker02

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    I do not know much about the past situation with star players but nowadays they are much more like crybabies...

    they hold a grudge and resent you, and possibly want out

    The ego messes with their heads - well most of them
     
  17. PeppermintCandy

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    I really don't have any qualifications to critique Morey, but I see two tendencies that might get him into trouble.

    One, he tends to value players who are extremely good at a few things over well-rounded guys. As if their specialized talents can outweigh whatever deficiencies they might have in other parts of their game.

    This works out great when all the pieces fit together and the combinations players make up for each other's deficiencies (for example, T-Mac and Battier), but I think there's a greater risk of things breaking down badly when they don't quite align.

    Two, Morey doesn't seem to place a great value on the issue of the player's characters. I mean, he doesn't intentionally go for guys who are headcases, but he's willing to bet on guys like Terrence Williams or Royce White perhaps much more than most GMs. He seems to believe that talent can overcome certain character flaws, or maybe he believes these guys can somehow become more mature as they age.
     
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  18. SmeggySmeg

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    what's the cliché, the NBA is a players league..... proved nicely by the Warriors who seem to be fine without a coach..... how is this not on the players and particularly our two alleged superstars, they are the one's that are supposed to lead and set examples... one of them is a smiley non leader who can't create his own shot, the other is plays on one of end of the floor selfishly on his own, with no effort on D (understand he can be bad at it but doesn't even try) and no smarts at all......

    Les-Morway-McHale-JB..... sure they all play a part but the buck stops with the players
     
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  19. kjayp

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    very good points!

    The first sentence made me lol though - as if any of us really have ANY 'qualifications' -lol
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I am not saying you yell and scream, but you get a guy that can push their right buttons.

    JVG was a master of that with TMac.....Thibs has gotten through to Harden already.

    To me, one of those two, and the sooner the better.

    DD
     

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