New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

I know that bias is what we do here but putting a person who as the secretary of state of the USA was willing to put state secrets on her own private server in the White House is at best irresponsible.

People are making fun of the GOP choices but they aren't treasonous prior to being POTUS. Bernie is just a paper cuttout for Hilary to run against. The choices on the democratic side of this election are bad. Lying to the American people about doing your intern is one thing but lying about being careless with state secrets is quite another.

 

Agreed, Hillary is a terrible candidate for president......but she's still about a million times better than Trump or Christie. Sadly the Republicans didn't take this presidential cycle seriously and it will probably lead to a Hilldog presidency.

 

I don't believe that she is, but I do agree that Trump and Christie are on a similar level of bad for this country.

Trump would be on par with putting the Kardashians in the WH.

All politicians do two things, lie and spend money. I try to lean towards the ones that I think are going to lie the least and spend the most responsibly.

I think Hilary would shoot her own mother to be president.

 

Learn to read. Graduated Yale and began working in politics in the 1960s, she had been in and around public service for three decades BEFORE Bill got elected President.

Yes, as usual, your take is truly absurd and ridiculous.

Coming from you, I take this one as a compliment.

Again, I would ask where you acquired the clairvoyance necessary to discern that her marriage was one of convenience.

And yet again, you blame the victim in the situation rather than the perpetrator.

 

Where is the liberal dog pile from the likes of Air Langhi, Anticope, mcmuck and others who felt this was completely irrelevant and that Hillary was completely innocent. Seems this story is going from mild to severe.

This is not about bringing Hillary down. This is more about the grave concerns of a Trump vs Bernie election.

Reading back, I found this little gem.

Poor kid. He truly knows nothing about politics and state secrets. He should stick to making pretty pictures.
mcmark, negligence and ignorance are never an excuse in the eyes of the law.

 

In another thread someone just called what Hillary did a "technical faux pas", it's crazy how people always try to justify anything the Clinton's do.

As to a Trump vs. Bernie election, I just can't think that people will really vote for Trump when it comes down to it. Sure he has poll numbers, but I just don't think those people are really going to vote for him when they are casting their ballot. I simply don't want to think that people are that incredibly stupid. I hope I'm not wrong.

If it did come down to Trump vs Bernie, I'd have to fully support Sanders.

 

In my mind, this an incredibly simple issue and hence amazes me to see that it has generated 20+ pages of sometimes vitriolic debate.

That someone as important and high ranking as the Secretary of State of the USA can deliberately and knowingly use a private server/account for official business is incomprehensible to me. If it is not illegal, it should be, and at the very least is grossly negligent and indicative of poor judgement.

Unless someone tells me that this private server/account was actually installed and managed by official government IT and had equivalent government security, then I can't think of a reasonable defense for Clinton's actions.

 

It's not necessarily illegal for her to have done official business via private server, but it is 100% illegal for her to have sent classified information via private server.....or even to have put classified information on a private computer to begin with.

She is absolutely guilty of thousands of counts of mishandling classified information if nothing else. A normal government employee would almost certainly be facing serious jail time, huge fines, and would never be able to work for the government in any capacity ever again. We'll see what happens to Hillary.

 

And then there are the payoffs she took through the Clinton Foundation for favors while she was the Secretary of State. The FBI is investigating that, too. You can just imagine the reaction by the Democrat left if that had been a Republican Secretary of State that had done that. The uproar would be beyond deafening.

 

I have stated multiple times, including in this thread, that I don't like or trust Hillary Clinton and if she has done something illegal then the proper actions should be taken and I would fully support that. Having said that, over the past 7 years the Republicans have thought that pretty much anything that Obama or Hillary touches is a scandal, so it's honestly become very difficult to try to discern what actually is, or could be, a real scandal. Maybe if you guys hadn't decided to employ the boy who cried wolf as a political tactic from day one, people would take you more seriously.

 

That's a little bit less straightforward though. I don't see any way she can avoid being indicted for mishandling classified information and other charges related to that, but I'm not sure the public corruption case is going anywhere.

 

There is nothing illegal about using private server in such a situation.
It's been three years.
No charges.
This won't work in October and November.

 

Fine, but that's not my point. If its not illegal, it certainly should be and it demonstrates poor decision making. Sackable offence at my company, and I'm sure with any other company that deals in remotely sensitive information.

 

I dont think you understand the significance of this issue, much like many of the others democrat sympathizers. This isn't Benghazi, where at best, she would be guilty of making a bad judgement call.

Releasing of any classified information for intentional damage or self gain is jail time. She is not guilty of this (at least in this scenario).

From there, it gets a little more ambiguous, depending on the infraction and the material exposed. Negligently leaving out low level controlled material (stuff the whole world knows about, but still classified), even in a controlled environment (meaning only cleared people are around), can result with a slap of the wrist.

From the reports, this was not basic run of the mill classified information. This was SAP information. Additionally to her willful negligence, this can be very serious for her. Depending on exposure, for most people this would result in firing and a loss of security clearance. If the information did fall in the wrong hands (such as hackers) and damage resulted, it could very well end in jail time.

 

There's nothing wrong with using a private server so long as you aren't sending classified information.....which is what she was doing. She tried to cover her tracks and she didn't do a good enough job so she'll be almost certainly facing charges for it once the investigation concludes.

As to October and November, she could be completely out of it WAY before that.

 

At this point, it seems almost inevitable the FBI will recommend to the Justice department to indict Hillary Clinton on upwards of 15+ separate laws/statues she broke.

The questions then become:
1) When will they make this recommendation?
2) Will the Justice department act on it?
3) Will Hillary drop out if indicted?
4) If indicted, regardless of whether Hillary drops out...What will the Democratic party do?

 

I'm guessing that means "No".

I'm guessing this means more he-said-she-said.

 

You are speculating and hoping to be right.

When the IG and staff need to expand their security clearance, that is a pretty strong indicative that there is some serious material.

Material does not go from unclassified to classified. If it was unclassified, the email header would state so, as would if it was declassified.

Completely irrelevant. Of course she is going to deny it. This isnt Texas Hold'em. The IG is not bluffing. The IG wont make accusations unless there is proof.

 

Your guessing sounds a whole lot like "hoping". The indictment is all but a sure thing so you might as well make your peace with it.