ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Kings 12/15/2015

Were was his scoring last night? Its comical how people take sides . both guys are inconsistent like role players but deemed " stars"

 

I agree. He didnt play Thornton till the 3rd. He loves Brewer and Terry so much.

 

didn't see the game, but I see that Quincy Acy played for 55 seconds and got a technical. Is this real life?

 

A reminder:

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Don't believe what Dwight says lol.

 

Harden has to outrebound our $23m center.
Average 8 assists with <2 turnovers p/g.
Play elite defense.
Score 30+ on 50/40/90 shooting

What other SG in history apart from Jordan could do that?

Oh I forgot he's to blame for Ty Lawson being one of the worst PG's in the League. I wonder why Jeremy Lin didn't get that sort of sympathy on here?

 

Tell you what you do....don't play harden for the entire game and likewise, don't play Dwight for an entire game.

I submit to you that Harden would be GREATLY missed...Dwight, I'm not sure it would show that much. Take james and put 4 D leaguers with him ...would be better than Dwight w/o Harden. I believe that.

 

The only person taking sides is you and you've already labeled me as the enemy without doing your research, lol. I was one of the people defending Dwight just last week. Harden is not perfect but he is also not our major problem.

 

Yep....I'm thinkin the same way

 

Looks like the same problems with a different coach: playing the old veterans who are stinking up the place over better 'new' guys.

 

I just hope one day I'm not saying "You never know what you have until it's gone." with Harden. If he goes down with an injury or something most of yall will be crying tears about it. Since he's so bad right, we shouldn't miss him at all. He's the cause of all of our issues right?

He's the SOLE reason our defense sucks right? That we can't hit 3s? Our rebounding issue? Harden is the reason right?

 

The hate on Harden is ridiculous. He is our best shot at winning no matter what. He definitely frustrates me because of his lack of effort on the defensive end, but if one thing was proven to me last year is that he can focus on that end of the floor and carry the team on his back as well.

Blowing it up and trading Harden away is only going to set us back years. It's ridiculous that people prefer the uncertainty. I think this team does need to be improved, but trading Harden should be the last thing that should be on anybodies mind.

We need a solid coaching staff that doesn't party with the players and need to get some actual shooters and rebounders on this team. Even with Harden's subpar playoff performances, I'll still take him over any other player right now. There is no way in hell we could even get equal value back by trading him away.

 

We are just two games ahead of being in 13 place...and our easy shedule is almost over.

 

Straw men... This team is reliant on Harden. No one is arguing against that premise.

 

There was a stretch of games during the Harden/Lin/Parsons/Asik era where Harden had to miss a few games and the ball movement was glorious.

This isn't anything new to me, it's just that the talent has been upgraded 10x from Parsons/Lin/Asik, and the issues are still the same, which is why the criticism of Harden is all over the place, the "not enough talent" excuse is no longer there.

Which is why I roll my eyes at the cries for new players.

I'm telling you now that the smart players do not want to come here, and if they do end up here, it's strictly for the money, and they probably regret it.

Ariza probably longs for the days he was with Wall/Beal/Nene/Gortat.

 

Actually yes they are.

 

Actually they are. When you say that the team is playing bad defense because Harden isn't leading by example you are in fact saying that Harden is the reason our defense sucks no?

 

The role players sure aren't playing like they are more talented but go ahead blame Harden on how other players play, lol. It's ridiculous.

 

Harden is the REASON OUR TRANSITION DEFENCE SUCKS. I want to hear ONE argument that disputes this. And guess what? Our transition defence is the most important part of our defence because of the number of our turnovers that are in a big part caused by the same man, Harden. So if you don't think taht the NO.1 culprit of the bad defence is Harden then you are simply..blind.

 

100% agree also.

I'm not for trading Harden at all. His problem, his MAIN problem is his mentality.

he thinks he can cruise in the games, doesn't care about every possession. This can change. We know it can change since he changed it last year.

No way we should trade Harden. Even if he isn't a Batman type of player at least we can rest knowing we have a supremely talented player for a Batman to come join up with.

 

Of course the team is reliant on Harden, they only know how to play with each other with Harden dominating the ball. I'd argue if Parsons was still on the team, they wouldn't have so much trouble running the offense if Harden was out.