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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2015-16

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. b2bizchina

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    Lawson & TJ & KJ traded for anything
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    In: Cousins
    Out: Harden
     
  3. b2bizchina

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    Lawson & Brewer & Tj traded out to Nets for JJohnson
     
  4. ZomgZ

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    According to the proposed NBA trade rumor this 2015, the deal won't happen without the participation of another team, which in this hypothetical scenario, involves the Boston Celtics. In the proposal, the Celtics will get Dwight Howard and P.J. Tucker, the Houston Rockets will get Eric Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler and Markieff Morris, while the Phoenix Suns will get Ty Lawson and David Lee, along with their expiring contracts, with about five first rounders from the Rockets and Celtics

    Wow Suns blowing it up?

    Eric bled and Morris would be nice exchange for howard. Chandler if healthy could be nice but we already have Capela.

    Turn around and send Kj and terrence jones for Ryan Anderson

    Bledsoe - Beverely
    Harden - Brewer
    Ariza - Thorton
    Morrs- Ryan Anderson
    Capela - Chandler

    Not a bad team at all if you think about it.
     
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    This is stupid.
     
  6. Krizzle

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    Sounds alot like a golden ticket move by Morey if he did something like that, I would at least see him get some kind of pick tho as well. It will be like a instant do over on the roster/season.

    but the coach will also be a factor in the W-L columns.
     
  7. ZomgZ

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    These trade rumors were from realgm , and was both getting alot of praise, not mine. Heck that team thou is one heck of a scoring team you gotta admit, and the trades are pretty fair. I could see us being the new gs warriors, i mean ryan anderson going small in lineups hitting 3's off the bench.....
     
  8. ThatBoyNick

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    Lawson, Jones and KJ for Collision and Koufos.

    Koufos has been a great rebounder in his limited minutes, solid defender, good finisher around the rim and a big body. Give him the backup center position, rest Howard more often, and move Capela to the PF spot with Dmo. If Capela can play well with Howard, he should be able to play well with Koufos as well.

    Collison replaces Lawson, if he doesn't turn into a ghost like Lawson he would be a tremendous upgrade. But in all seriousness he has been playing well even with playing half his minutes with Rondo a ball dominant guard so I would assume he would fit in with Harden too since he can play fine off ball. Good 3pt shooter fast as lightning, crafty finisher around the rim. Kind of like Aaron Brooks.

    Butler would be a nice locker room vet and could give spot minutes in case of injury or if Brewer is sucking it up too hard.

    All three players are on good contracts, Koufus 3 years 24 mill, Collison 2 years 10 mill, Butler 1 year 1.5 mill

    Kings have a log jam at C with Cousins and WCS and could use a legit 4, Jones would fit in nicely. They also need some help on the wings, where KJ would also for nicely. Lawson would be a nice backup PG/expiring contract for them, if Rondo is tearing it up in their system Lawson should do well too.

    Beverley / Collison / Terry
    Harden / Thornton
    Ariza / Brewer / Butler
    Motie / Capela
    Howard / Koufos
     
  9. JayZ750

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    I see where you are going... but would also point out the irony here.

    The ROCKETS could use a legit 4. If TJones was that, they'd be keeping him!
    And notwithstanding the fact that Dwight has not been "great" this year, and that Clint has played some PF, the Rockets also have a logjam at center.

    Dwight/Clint are a great C rotation.

    TJones/DMo is a bad PF rotation

    Koufos is basically another Capela. Would I prefer another Capela over Jones at this point? Probably, but it's not a great fix.
     
  10. Ns575

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    "We could use a legit 4"

    We have one...

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  11. ThatBoyNick

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    I dont think its quite the same. Capela is probably most suited for PF right now in his career. He has played well next to Howard as the starting PF and also still isnt strong enough yet to play center against a lot of bigs, and we could use another rebounder and big body to pack the paint on defense when Howard goes out to play with Capela.

    Koufos, Cousins, WCS are all too big and slow to play PF. Capela is light and very quick.

    Have y'all noticed that when Capela is the back up, and Howard is out, the opposing team starts going off in the paint and we suck on defense until Howard comes back?

    Jones is a real PF, but so is Dmo, and so is Capela, and we like them better and would rather pay Dmo over Jones.

    I'm tired of having layup drill defense, I want a big strong front court rotation.
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    This is the worst. Of all our team's shortcomings, this sits near the top of the WTF? List: how our players allow such eeeeeasy drives to the rim, layup after layup, and yet on the other end, for us, it seems to be such a chore.

    How many times do I yell at the TV screen, "Terrence, DUNK! THE! F***ING! BALL! DO SOME S***!"

    I'm surprised the cops haven't come to the door: "Sir, we had a call about a possible domestic disturbance. Ma'am, are you okay? Just fine? Sir, why don't you step out of the premises? Oh....you're watching the Rockets? Let me guess: Terrence Jones? Here's your ID back. Sir, if you want my advice, don't watch that garbage. You'll live longer. Good night."
     
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    Nene is a much better defender/rim protector than Koufas.
     
  15. JayZ750

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    I disagree. I think Clint is a C. He's got limited to 0 ballhandling skills, post-up game outside of the paint, and a limited jump shot. He's agile, but not exactly best suited to be switched onto SFs or SGs, as is more likely to be asked of a PF than a C.

    He's still a little light, because of age, but that doesn't make him a PF.

    He's the same weight as WCS, btw.

    I think they're all centers.

    Haven't noticed. It could be true... maybe not though. Haven't done, nor do I have the time (!) to do the advanced statistical analysis by lineup, by Capela position, etc...

    I do know Capela has a better DRtg this year than Howard, but that of course is situational as well

    To clarify, I'm certainly not suggesting playing Capela less, etc. I do like him and Dwight together. I'm just pointing out that I think he is capable of playing backup at either position.

    And that the biggest hole in the frontcourt is PF. Sure, DMo may end up being a big lift there. But his weaknesses will still be his weaknesses - rebounding, solid team defender but not the best "big" defender. And that TJones is not conducive to winning basketball.

    If I'm looking to improve the frontcourt, it's by getting a PF that IS more conducive to winning. It's a broad statement, because PFs come in lots of different shapes and sizes. But the point is I'm not looking for Mozgof, Asik, Koufos types as much as I'd like to get the equivalent at true PF.

    EDIT: To provide an example, a guy I'd target would be Jared Sullinger. Now I see no way to get him. I imagine the Celtics would be willing to move him, but not for whatever crap the Rockets have to offer. But he'd be potentially more getable than someone who would more clearly be the answer, like Paul Millsap, who isn't being moved.
     
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    Capela has the skill set of a center right now. But right now he's also too light. He can't hold position on the blocks against the other legit 5's on the better teams. Not even the backup 5's like Ezeli, Kanter, etc.

    Nick is right. At this point in time, Capela is best-served playing defensive PF alongside a true vet paint/rim defender. This allows Capela to roam somewhat and provide help blindside on guys working in the post. And that's where he looks best because of his length and athleticism.

    Nick is dead-on that we have to get that definite second paint/rim protector/rebounder. Otherwise we ain't goin nowhere. I have become more convinced over the last few games that this is our greatest need, even exceeding the need for better shooters and playmakers.
     
  17. JayZ750

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    Your comments about Capela are on point, but I think taken to an extreme. For example, not holding his own against Ezeli, Kanter, etc. I haven't seen much of that, frankly. There just aren't a ton of great offensive centers, and Capela seems to be as good as A LOT of other centers out there as far as "holding his own". Is he as good as Dwight in that regards? No... he doesn't have that size yet....

    BUT...

    Does Capela look bad when he's at center, with TJones at PF next to him? Yeah... but so does Dwight. So does EVERYONE. Seriously, look at Jones lineup stats. Again, granted, I'd rather have Dwight/Jones than Capela/Jones.

    But to my point, I'd just rather not have Jones and replace Jones with a PF that can play defense.

    In my view

    Dwight = Center
    Capela = Center/PF
    DMo = PF/Center

    Jones = useless

    They need a a Jones like guy that can actually play defense, rebound like a monster, etc. That's why Draymond Green is so unique and amazing.

    A Jared Sullinger is a Draymond Green light type player. Really really amazing rebounder, improved passer, great DRtg. Again, he's not getable, but that's the idea.

    All that being said, again, I am fine with Capela at PF if the best return for Jones is more of a pure center. You got to get what you can.

    I'm just saying in an ideal world...
     
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    It's not about defending great offensive centers. Controlling the paint/rim and getting the boards puts the 5 up against drivers from the perimeter as well as rebounding against the other bigs. IT's not about shutting down the opposing big from scoring 20. It's about making life difficult for the other team in the paint and controlling the boards.

    Rockets are 9-2 when they outrebound the opponent and 3-11 when they are outrebounded by the opponent.
     

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