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When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. bobmarley

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    A Republican won't win. A conservative will!

    I have the person I will vote for in the Texas primary.
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    Glad to see you haven't lost your core republican values of being demeaning to women, ethnic minorities, and tolerance in general. Keep it classy.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    note: you couldn't refute any of my points
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    Fair enough, I personally don't like Cruz but would deff. want him over Trump. The moderate republicans just need to speak out against this extremist, otherwise they'll be the ones to blame if they flop with him running against Mrs. Clinton.

    I'm not a fan of Hilary like many americans, but it might just turn into a pick your poison decision.
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    That she's fat (subjective) or that she couldn't keep her husband satisfied? I personally don't like her but maybe Bill was into kinky sh1it from the beginning and it had nothing to do with her.

    Just saying.
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    And chicks who get raped shouldn't have been flaunting it like that, amirite?

    Hillary is a turd of a candidate. It takes a special kinda guy to overshadow that. You guys could win this walking away if you weren't so busy sabotaging yourselves.
     
  7. peleincubus

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    i could see bob dole, clinton, bush, gore, mccain, kerry, obama, romney, all as presidents. i truly could not see cruz as president of this country. he just seems like someone that should not go further as perhaps a vice president or secretary of state perhaps.

    he seems too crazy to the #1 guy behind the U.S. military. although VP might as well be president, being one heartbeat away from it.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Bill was running around on her left and right. She couldn't even keep her husband satisfied, and you expect her to keep America satisfied? No.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Dude pump the brakes. You're totally lost. Just a stupid, ridiculous comment from you that is completely out of left field. Gather yourself and come back later, bro.
     
  10. LosPollosHermanos

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    lol . At least you're pushing it to the point where everybody knows you're not serious. I'm sure Mrs. Clinton will appreciate the token when you cast your ballot for her ;)
     
  11. bobmarley

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    Guess what? You didn't see McCain, Romney, and Dole win because Conservatives didn't come out in mass for these flubs.

    When you run in the mushy middle and don;t stand up for anything no body wants to follow you. At least the Demos put somebody out there that believed in something as misguided as they were. If the Repugs don't put a true conservative out there they WILL lose. And no Donald is not a true conservative.
     
  12. Amiga

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    Sexual dysfunctional much with this one.
     
  13. Amiga

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    It's a hard place to be. Run as a moderate GOP candidate and you will likely repeat 2012, 2008. Run as a very conservative GOP candidate and you will likely lose in a landslide. This is what happen will you alienate everyone except white male.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    And yet, they weren't laughing stocks because they spouted crazy theories about Iran shooting nuclear weapons into the air off the coast causing millions of deaths.

    So if that's the kind of candidate conservatives want to support, then that doesn't speak well for conservatives.
     
  15. Nolen

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    Your trolling game is slippin, brah.
    Is the march to inevitable defeat gettin you down, son?
     
  16. Nolen

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    Tough choices:
    1) Lose the general with an establishment candidate.
    2) Lose the general BADLY with a "conservative".
    3) Take a long look in the mirror and reform.
     
  17. MojoMan

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    So, Donald Trump is apparently regarded as such an incendiary wild man by the Republican establishment types that they are now warming to the idea of supporting Ted Cruz.

    From CNN:

     
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    For all of the crowing from conservatives about how "Obama hasn't worked with Congress," it seems like they're willfully ignorant about how much Cruz is hated in Congress, especially by his own party. It was only a couple of months ago that he called Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor and was denied procedural show votes by his own party.

    Honest question for Republicans: what makes you think that, if elected to the presidency, Cruz will suddenly put aside the combativeness he's operated with since he joined the Senate and work with a Congress he's vilified for years? What makes you think that Congressional Republicans will no longer treat him with open disdain like they have been since 2012? If the last couple of decades are any indication, no politician is above pettiness and self-aggrandizing behavior in lieu of bipartisan cooperation.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    If Republicans actually want to have a chance at the general election they need to put either Kasich, Rubio or Bush as their nominee. Anyone else is just wishful thinking.
     
  20. MojoMan

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    You appear to be advocating for business as usual in Congress again, when that is clearly not what is needed. Those people are corrupt and self serving in the extreme, which is what Ted Cruz has been pointing out. Of course they loathe him for that. The American people loathe Congress for that too.

    If Cruz becomes president, at that point, they will have to work with him, which so far they have been almost completely unwilling to do. Of course you can make crap up and accuse him of holding positions which are not in fact his, but if you listen to what he wants to do, in most cases it makes a lot of sense. The reason why it is not pursued is not because his ideas or principles are bad, it is because it interferes with the selfish and irresponsible self-dealing arrangements that exist in Congress and in Washington.

    Will the members of Congress be willing to work with President Ted Cruz? If they want to get anything done, they will have to. But I doubt that President Cruz is going to want to continue to waste hundreds of billions of dollars and violate the US constitution and the laws of our land with impunity, just because that is the precedent that has been set in recent years or because the corrupt politicians in Congress and their special interest benefactors are threatening to have a tantrum if they do not routinely get their palms massively greased.

    And these would be actual examples of "change we can believe in," which unfortunately we have not seen any examples of that I can recall from the Obama regime, even though he of course campaigned on that slogan.
     

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