1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Astros Offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Yeah, all true. I guess if everyone is overpaid, no one is overpaid. 200M just seems like a lot for a guy who's struggled to be consistent.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,566
    Likes Received:
    32,044
    When are the Cubs not the favorite before everyone remembers that they are the Cubs and they ultimately blow it?
     
  3. cangrejero51

    cangrejero51 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,920
    Likes Received:
    44
    Don't forget Zobrist plus warren in a trade. They have young players like Soler and Javier Baez they can get a good young pitcher in return, carrasco or Ross from the padres
     
  4. ItsMyFault

    ItsMyFault Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    15,646
    Likes Received:
    978
    One day this won't hold up anymore. ;)
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,566
    Likes Received:
    32,044
    Heh, I really hope that's not true, I want the curse of the goat to last forever. i do know that the Cubs have a VERY good team right now, I just like it when they lose.
     
  6. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Heyward with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a> is eight years, $184M.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/675399253796212736">December 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  7. craigharmann

    craigharmann Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    514
    Likes Received:
    300
    I hate the Cubs and the Cardinals, so anything that hurts both of them, I'm all for. I believe this hurts both of them badly.
     
  8. solodolo

    solodolo Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    1,059
    Likes Received:
    164
    Cardinals fans really want springer
     
  9. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Kind of interesting that Luhnow has yet to trade with the Cardinals. Curious what we could get for Gomez.
     
  10. HeyDude

    HeyDude Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2001
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    43
    Yea same here. I bet KC has 5 players better than Heyward offensively, but none of them are anywhere close to his salary....Defense and stolen bases sound sexy, but man he's never scored 100 runs or driven in a 100 RBIs...its crazy!
     
  11. DaChamp

    DaChamp Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2014
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    142
    That's a lot of money for Heyward. I don't think he's any better than Springer. Which I guess makes it more difficult for Luhnow to lock in Springer with a long term contract.
     
  12. Nick

    Nick Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    50,792
    Likes Received:
    17,162
    He very well may not be... he's only 5 weeks older than George.

    But he made his debut at 20 vs. George at 24.
     
  13. LonghornFan

    LonghornFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,718
    Likes Received:
    2,628
    Good lord. Sorry but 184 million for Heyward? No thanks.
     
  14. LonghornFan

    LonghornFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,718
    Likes Received:
    2,628
    Listening the MLB on Sirius today there's serious rumors about sending Baez to the Ray's for McGee and Alex Cobb as they're desperate for some arms.
     
  15. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,786
    Likes Received:
    20,556
    All Heyward has to do is average 3 WAR over the next 8 years (for a total of 24 WAR for the entire contract).

    Heyward average 6+ WAR the last two years and has a total of 31 WAR for his 6 year career.

    Heyward is only 26 years old and not even in prime.

    If Heyward stays heakthy, he could easily get better and overperform his contract.
     
  16. LonghornFan

    LonghornFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,718
    Likes Received:
    2,628
    He has two opt out clauses starting in 2018 and he turned down 200 million from the Nats and Cardinals. Dude really wanted to be a Cub. Theo has gotta be pissing the Cards off. Love it.
     
  17. vince

    vince Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2000
    Messages:
    3,865
    Likes Received:
    3,661
    And this is one reason Astros should not pay stupid money for a free agent. Pay days are going to be looming for the young 'stros. Springer and Dallas may be looking at 200 million dollar contracts soon. And Correa is not too far off either. At some point the Astros are going to have to find a way to afford 3 $200 million contracts. That would practically mean 3 Guys making close to $75-100 million per year; and the other 22 players probably earning 120 million among them.

    The 30 million dollar payroll should be a distant memory.
     
  18. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    I wouldn't want Heyward at that price, but there's no difference between choking up stupid money for FA's or "our guys".
     
  19. Sydeffect

    Sydeffect Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,923
    Likes Received:
    448
    Yikes, Carter's batting avg for balls in play was .244 last season. But the last 2 years it was .267 and .311

    Valbuena was .235, last year with the cubs it was .295 and the year prior to that it was .233
     
  20. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,576
    Likes Received:
    7,099
    I would have given him 10/$250M
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now