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Planned Parenthood Director caught on tape selling aborted baby parts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. Outlier

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  2. giddyup

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    Did you (I know you didn't) watch the long video where the former abortion clinic owner/operator admits to the illegal behavior of doctors in "performing" abortions and covering up trails?
     
  3. giddyup

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    Why and how is there such a common "understanding" that PP is the women's health care choice of the masses for things such as mammograms?
     
  4. Dubious

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    Most of us at some time or another have been the beneficiaries of the services of Planned Parenthood. In the 70's when I was dating my wife, it was the only place to get birth control. They became the provider last resort because of regressive laws and practices trying to limit necessary and desired medical services by those with religious opposition to them. All of this thread is about a lie anyway. The services provided are legal as determined by the Supreme Court and recent rigorous examination, the opposition is purely a religious determination and in the US we try to avoid catering to religious dictates and stick with law. This ain't Baptistan.
     
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    why are you avoiding the topic of this thread?

    because allegations have been proven false, once again?

    or because a holier-than-thou attitude towards ineffective policies that haven't reduced abortions or helped maternal health outcomes led to further violence?
     
  6. Amiga

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    I'm not about to watch another video posted in this thread from someone with your view against PP. No credibility.
     
  7. giddyup

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    I figured you were closed-minded. I've watched every video that anyone has posted. Protect your mind!
     
  8. giddyup

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    Not avoiding anything. Threads can meander. Either post here or start a complete new thread. I've never been so concerned that PP was guilty of anything but being horribly callous toward the lives of the unborn. Did you watch the long video I posted?

    I'm driven by what is right for the babies whose lives are at stake. The rest of you will trample right over their right to life for someone's personal freedom. That is selfish and short-sighted beyond belief.

    Why don't all you pro-Choicers just go off yourselves after you sign organ donation cards? How many people can you help in that way: 6, 8, 10? No, you'll just let the babies do the heavy lifting in regards to complete and total sacrifice.
     
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    Awaiting giddy's response to this question.

    If giddy's only response is "abortions are bad" then we'll just take it as his concession that no wrongdoing relevant to the thread topic has been found.
     
  10. giddyup

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    Those inquiries were only about the selling of baby parts. As I said EARLIER, that's not even what I am primarily concerned about.

    I did this as a public service to the MASSES here who think that PP provides free mammograms.

    Ms. Richards in the first video was concerned about women losing access to mammograms and in the second she admits that PP doesn't perform mammograms.

    Explain how that is not deceptive? What loophole was she living in?
     
  11. Amiga

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    Good for you. Quite sure you aren't open to other views related to abortion. As for me, I'm quite open to other views and choosing to not watch videos doesn't mean I'm not.
     
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    You're avoiding two things:

    Talking about the actual topic of this thread, something you referenced numerous times before. You can admit you were wrong.

    Second, ignoring a terrorist attack on a PP facility that was guided by rhetoric devoid of fact or reason.

    how's that for a thread meandering?

    As for when you're on whatever topic you decided to go to, last time we left off, all I saw was you supporting a set of failed policies that don't reduce abortions, and would kill mothers and babies--so what exactly is the point in all of your misguided rhetoric? You're not doing anything "right for the babies, or the fetuses" or whatever, to be perfectly frank.
     
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    He just said he watches any video, unlike yourself.
     
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    If you can trumpet being open-minded as ignoring 1) medical studies, 2) empirical analysis 3) case studies 4) statistics 5) state investigations SPOON-FED to you, while challenging people to watch an hour-long video that has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ANY ARGUMENT, well hats off to logical fallacy.
     
  15. Amiga

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    And his abortion views are probably etched in platinum.
     
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    Yes it does. How could it not? Many of those on the video formerly held your opinion even more vehemently as they actually worked in the industry.

    You don't know what you don't know.

    I unhesitatingly admit that I am willing to compromise a woman's right to choose in favor of valuing another's right to life... like we have unfettered right to choose about things in this culture! :rolleyes: We are hemmed in left and right by common law.

    On the other hand, the pro-Choice crowd needs to define the baby out of a full humanity to make their law palatable. That's an artifice upon which they make life and death decisions.
     
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    you are grasping at straws that you will never truly catch.

    the hope is one day people will not have unwanted pregnancies any longer. whatever means those are they will come eventually. through evolution and technology i suppose.
     
  18. giddyup

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    This is page 45 of this thread. I think you'll find plenty of remarks I've made about the original topic. Go back and count 'em.

    Did you know that OJ Simpson didn't kill his ex-wife and her boyfriend? He was found not guilty in a court of law...

    Are you talking about Colorado Springs? I think this is the first mention of it, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to call me out on it... but that's just you!

    What to say? The guy is a loner, misguided nutjob. End of subject.



    If people did the right thing, this would not be an issue. You have knowingly leveraged and legitimized their right to do the wrong thing and you want to blame me for it? Too rich.
     
  19. giddyup

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    In the meantime, live with and let your "choices" live.
     
  20. peleincubus

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    i'm not exactly sure what you mean by that comment.

    but i have only got one girl pregnant in my life. and i have a awesome and amazing five your old boy to show for it.

    this is him here ;)

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CxE4_d2WpzQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     

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