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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Nets 12/8/2015

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. PeterKingX

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    Pathetic to see JB give him no minutes for past few games.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    I never said they were good though. They are average, they don't suck and they are not great...they are just average.

    BUT if they go 5 of 6 the rest of the way they'd be pretty good :p
     
  3. PhiSlamma15

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    Brooklyn Nets 110, Houston Rockets 105: Never mind
    by FORREST WALKER | DECEMBER 8, 2015 at 09:38 PM
    The Houston Rockets cannot be trusted. They’ve been working their way back to respectability, one game at a time, one win at a time. And just when they had a shot at climbing back up to .500, to getting a fresh start, they pulled the rug out. The only question is who they pulled it out from under: their fans or themselves? Right now it looks like both.
    The story of this game is simple. The Rockets played badly, gave poor effort, and surrendered an 18-point lead that was too big to overcome once they did start trying. Oh, and the hits keep coming. They gave up wide open looks, they couldn’t score on easy layups and most chilling of all, Trevor Ariza got injured three minutes into the game. He fell and bruised his lower back, and was questionable to return for a time, which hopefully means it wasn’t too bad of an injury. It was a cavalcade of turnovers for both teams, with Brooklyn edging Houston 24 to 23. This was one of the ugliest basketball games in recent memory.
    Was Marcus Thornton’s line a positive? He scores 32 on 18 shots and notched 6 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals to go with it. He seemingly switched offense with James Harden for a night, who ended up with 10 points on 2-9 shooting. Corey Brewer was the only other player who looked alive in Brooklyn, and he didn’t look much better than the awful he’s been lately. It’s just that “not-awful” was good enough for 22 points and 4-8 three point shooting tonight.
    That’s the crux of it. The Rockets are in a slate of December games which require them to be merely “not-awful,” and they keep falling short of that mark. They made just enough progress to make this loss into a massive step back, even though it was only by five points. They should never have been down 18 to begin with. The number of opportunities they had to win this game were innumerable, and they turned them down one after the other.
    Everything that can go wrong does. Everything that can not go wrong also goes wrong. The Houston Rockets are a team that is far, far less than the sum of its parts, and this frustration can’t be helping them to make up that ground. Head coach J.B. Bickerstaff is trying new things, is doing whatever he can, but it doesn’t seem to matter. Nobody can do less with more. This team is like watching someone deep in an addiction mull over whether they want to pull out of it or not, missing their chance in the meantime.
    Here’s the list of Rockets players who ended with more points than shots: Dwight Howard (10 on 5), James Harden (10 on 9), Jason Terry (8 on 5), Corey Brewer (22 on 16) and Marcus Thornton (32 on 18). Eleven players hit the court. They were still in position to win the game late, somehow. They still had a shot, and another shot, and another one. They cut it to within 4, with an open layup. Nope. Then they gave up an open three. They cut it to three and just had to get one stop. They couldn’t. They didn’t come close.
    The Rockets may have lost the ball game, but they may just have beaten the Brooklyn Nets at their own game. For one night, just a couple hours, they faced off against a team with no lottery picks for years, no star prospects (unless you’re really high on Rondae Hollis-Jefferson), and no chance at landing anyone in free agency, and they looked more futile. The Nets may not have a shot at much of anything, but tonight their fans can remember this:
    At least they’re trying.
    Maybe the Rockets will try one of these days, too.
     
  4. Houstunna

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    You don't seriously believe that statement... because believing that would be saying players/teams must be good/great every night.


    You have accepted the Rockets aren't going anywhere this season. And I can't blame you.
     
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    i am a little sad, but not mad. calm.

    this is rather strange...
     
  6. Nook

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    Honestly that is the case for most teams that are not that good.
     
  7. BamBam

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    I don't see any confusion! Player-Coach BRickerstaff seems to have everyone moving in unison!!! ... :eek:
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  8. Nook

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    I don't think they are average, they are playing the easiest part of their schedule.

    Sorry I misunderstood you.
     
  9. Htownballer38

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    I agree with you on this 100%. Harden is nowhere close to being the leader that Curry is. Harden doesn't have that fire in his belly that Curry does. Harden doesn't have the hunger in his heart to be one of best like Curry does. Curry doesn't beat up the clubs like Harden does. Curry isn't jumping from chick to chick like Harden does. And Curry allows his hard work to manifest on the court (speaks for itself ) unlike Harden.

    Harden has a lot of maturing to do. If he wants to be the best and win championship, he better change his mental makeup of the game. He has the potential to be one of the greats, but right now it's just isn't there.
     
  10. amaru

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    lol a coach partying with players isn't a recipe for success.
     
  11. elainas

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    Good think is that even in current shape he's at top on this team from effort stand point
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    Good teams are consistently good though? Being consistently good doesn't mean you are the Warriors and win every single night.

    It just means that if you play 10 games you'll probably drop 2 or 3 of them. If you want to look at how well a team is playing look at the previous 10 record. Ours is 5-5 I think. Which shouldn't be too surprising. If that record can be 7-3 for most of the year you're doing a good job and on your way to a 50+ win season.
     
  13. PeterKingX

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    Harden has no heart, all focus on naked girls and night clubs.

    Howard is old, injury prone, and soft.

    JB is a new coach, 0 experience, no way close to Steve Kerr.

    I have grown to be very sad for this season.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    I guess we'll see, they looked better when they were playing better teams oddly enough.

    If this team has turned a corner we'll know tomorrow night. I always like to talk about the response of a team.

    It's like alright fine, they lost to the Nets. Go out there and beat another struggling team and get that win back.

    Earlier in the season there was no response. Just Ls piling up to bad opponents. I think the old cliche of it's about how you get up is true. So we'll see but I don't know what to expect from this team.
     
  15. colt45nyc

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    What a joke!!! BR just lost any hope to turn this team around.
     
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    pathetic performance by harden
     
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    When your homeboy is coaching the team
     
  18. malakas

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    It's not about giving the Rockets too much credit. It's about recognising the quality of the western teams this year apart from 2-3.
    Dallas no way wins 50 games. Zaza will 100% get hamstring injuries and miss one month at least. Even if the Clippers and Memphis start playing better the Suns are what they are. A chucking team that runs and plays NO defence and has a habit of always losing close games.
    Minny is too young and as much I like KAT he is a rookie and rookies hit walls due to fatigue.

    We will make the playoffs for sure this year. Not because we are good, because the west is godawful.
     
  19. Htownballer38

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    Jay all this after one year. Crazy how they went from the WCF to now a team who can't beat scrub teams. One would think you would be even thirsty to get back to the Western Conference Finals after getting a taste of it the season before.
     
  20. J.R.

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