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Big 12 Expansion rumors

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by tinman, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. MadMax

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    I want UH to get in the Big XII, too...but, yeah, that didn't help.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    I was kinda bummed about the attendance too until I realized the following.

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    Stanford, East Carolina, Boise and Fresno State have each hosted title games recently.

    All of them have bigger fan bases than UH. Two of them were playing for NY6 or BCS bowl bids.

    All of them sold between 6K and 13K less tickets to the title game than their regular season average. On average, it was 9K less than the regular season average.

    Our regular season average is 33.7K. We exceeded it at the CCG. That simply doesn't happen very often in these short notice title games where very few visiting team fans make the trip.

    The only two schools in CUSA/MWC history who have exceeded their season average are Houston and UCF. We exceeded our season average in 2006 and 2011. And we did so again in 2015.

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    This is information relating to "host site" title games, and not neutral sites.

    Neutral site games, like the Big 10, Big 12, etc, are typically planned years in advance and often times have the muscle of large orgs like Lone Star Entertainment, etc, behind them... and even then they don't sell out.

    So, when I see 35.7K at the AAC championship out of 40K seats, with only one week's notice, I'm not discouraged.
     
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  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    If UH gets into the Big 12 I'll eat the Chronicle.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Tulsa World Writer...

    The sports bubble is an important point to consider. ESPN is hemorrhaging right now and probably doesn't have the extra bones to throw at the Big 12. Until the format shifts and learns to capitalize on the a-la-carte streaming format they'll be in trouble.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Pancakes? Is that you?
     
  6. Nook

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    Further, the PAC wants a foot hold in the Texas market.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    The threat of the PAC picking up UH should be enough to motivate the 10 schools of the Big 12 to get on board. With A&M going to the SEC and UH in the PAC it would greatly harm the recruiting in Southeast Texas. They really don't want another power conference having a foothold here, even if they don't realize it.
     
  8. thesonofsam

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    There is zero "threat." The PAC 12 is not taking UofH alone. They would need to be part of a package of probably a minimum of 4 universities. We just all have to patiently wait for the Big 12 to dissolve and then all the schools will have to scramble to stay in a relevant conference.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    You're right it won't be Houston alone.

    It will be paired with someone like SMU, Nevada, New Mexico, Boise State, or Hawaii.
     
  10. Ziggy

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    I mean if that's the case then UH definitely needs to go to the Pac 12 and stop wasting its time dreaming about the Big 12 regardless of if they offered. Being the Texas school in the Pac 12, that's something you can sell.
     
  11. The Stig

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    Give us one-two more recruiting classes and hope basketball doesn't get tangled up in another scandal and we may just have a shot.
     
  12. sammy

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    What was the final score? That game was irrelevant as your tidbit.

    What if's don't matter but it's pretty likely Baylor is in the playoff at #2 overall if Russ doesn't break his neck. He was playing that well.
     
  13. Nook

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    You are correct, and that is part of why there is a level of interest in UH from the BigXII, primarily from schools other than UT.
     
  14. Nook

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    A number of people in high positions at the university would rather be in the Big XII than the PAC.

    What will be interesting will be what the school does if they only get a PAC invite. I suspect that they would take it.
     
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    First I didn't expect anything less than a blowout. But I have seen Lamar play quite a bit and they were not terrible. My issue is all the people bagging on Lamar because they are an FCS school. Their season actually somewhat mirrors Baylor's. They were playing well (had a surprising lead on Baylor, then beat Sam Houston and were ranked) then had some injuries that pretty much ended any chance they had of finishing strong.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    Big 12 makes more sense, with the exception of football. As far as elevating football, the Pac 12 would open up the world. Anyways, Big 12, chronicle, I'll eat it.
     
  17. ima_drummer2k

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    They have a stud RB from Kingwood. Dude dropped 230 yds and 2 TDs on us at home. :mad:
     
  18. gucci888

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    I don't think the Big 12 is all that concerned with recruiting in Texas, let alone a specific region in Texas. Ya another power conference in the state isn't good but it's not a make or break as long as Texas, Baylor, TCU, and Tech remain. For it's long term viability, the conference needs to expand to different markets just like the SEC and PAC 12 did a few years back.
     
  19. gucci888

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    One thing about the PAC is that it is a geographical nightmare. All but 4 of the schools are in PST which may not be that big of a deal for football, makes scheduling a b*tch for all other sports considering the number of games played. Also, none of the schools are within driving distance while close to half the Big 12 teams are within 8 hours of driving or much less.

    I suspect they would jump on an offer too but the Big 12 does make a lot more sense for UH.
     
  20. shastarocket

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    Super underrated point. From a fan point of view, it would be as annoying/disruptive as the Astros move to the AL was.

    Nevertheless, beggers can't be choosers. I'll be thrilled with whatever UH can get.
     

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