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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. peleincubus

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    regardless. what was said is true.

    if you had to throw down a few million on who to put money on in the election at this point? the R or the D?

    unless something unforeseen arises, it's already foregone conclusion at this point.
     
  2. Nook

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    Mein Trump doubling down on the anti-Jew...... err Muslim rhetoric... he is now calling for a ban on Muslims coming into the country.
     
  3. TheRealist137

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    Trump's doing what the Dems can't, destroying the GOP from the inside.
     
  4. mtbrays

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    He must be a Manchurian candidate, right? There's no other way to explain this.
     
  5. Nolen

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    Here's what I wrote:
    How you got "Obama legalized marriage!" from that, I'm not sure. One sentence following another does not equal causality. I'm perfectly aware that the SC ruling made gay marriage legal nationwide. My point was that the American electorate, in a very short period of time, has come to reverse it's stance on gay marriage, while conservatives are doubling down on bigotry.

    My post included many assertions, most importantly (to repeat myself): in a 2012 election in which Obamas negatives were very high, the economy in bad shape, high conservative voter participation, and a not-bat****-crazy republican candidate, and the repubs still lost handily.

    How on earth are repubs going to win a national 2016 race in which demographics have shifted even more against them in four years, and they're doubling down on anti-immigration/xenophobia?

    Rubio flipping FL won't be enough. Not even close.

    In December 2016 the dialogue will be: how/when will conservatives ever regain the white house? With gerrymandering the repubs will control the House of representatives for years to come, but the white house is a Dem lock for a long time.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    You're all over the place. Learn to be more direct.

    The Republicans clobbered the Democrats a year ago in the midterms, and you're crowing like it's already over? One thought: don't expect blacks to show up in the same numbers without Obama running.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    You're delusional. So many of you are. The wake up call with sit in soon enough, when you guys lose the presidential race over and over..
     
  8. JeffB

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    The GOP and FoxNews did this to themselves. Pandering and being nothing more than opposition made for fertile ground for a guy like Trump. Trump is just the opportunist. Stunting the party was years of work.
     
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    oh man and I cant waitttttt. Especially when Trump faces defeat. Can't wait to see him pluck his little sweat lips to defeat
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Heh, texxx doesn't support Trump. He never posts anything about him. It's just that Trump has turned the GOP into a farce and texxx knows it but can't admit it.
     
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    I know he doesn't but obviously a lot of people do. So in that regard, it would be pretty sweet to see him lose.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    It's so much more important than Dem versus Repub, guys.

    A civil society cannot tolerate people doing what Trump is doing. Everyone with any sense of decency has to speak against him now.
     
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  13. JeffB

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    You're right. It isn't about Dems vs. Repubs; Liberals vs. Wingnuts; Red vs. Blue. But that is how it is going to be colored until the GOP and its propaganda outlets take a strong stance against Trump. Right now, they are busy trying to have it both ways: keep blowing the dog whistles but roll eyes at Trump.

    Our civil society has been damaged by outlets like FoxNews and the ginned up scandals they and partisans promote. Trump, IMO, was just a matter of time. We need the magnifiers of the message to stop magnifying it. To take a hard stand with us against what Trump is doing.

    I really miss the non-crazy Republican Party.
     
  14. Nolen

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    HAhahaha. Oh tex. Your silence on my other points, repeated for you twice, is duly noted. Don't cry now, son.

    You've been following politics longer than 4 years, so I know that you know that more old white people show up to midterm elections; midterms always swing right, and then more of the electorate shows up for the national elections.

    2012 was a big loss for repubs and they had everything going for them. All things being equal, 2016 will be just as bad. But all things are not equal. The demographics which worked against the repubs in 2012 have shifted even further against them in the four years since. Simultaneously, the GOP has doubled down on anti-immigrant bigotry. Not to mention the clown show that is the current GOP nomination race.
     
  15. Dubious

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    Remember BigPuffery is just a troll account. Only reply when it entertains you. Because she only posts for attention, never discussion.
     
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    I heard some talk radio host calling Kasich a liberal this morning. The kiss of death.

    We really are doomed to a Clinton presidency. Assuming, oh I don't know, Ted Cruz wins the nomination, it will be Goldwater in 64 all over again. If the Dems ran a better candidate than Clinton, it wouldn't even be that close. Sad thing is, they probably don't need to.

    Extremists don't win general elections. Why can't the Republicans understand this?
     
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    Didn't the republicans clobber the Democrats in 2010 as well? How did that work out in 2012?
     
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    Crazy just saw this.
     
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    But even moderates like Romney has to try to sound like a wingnut when he is running as a Republican candidate, that's the problem with the Republican party. I think if Republicans loses the next two presidential elections, there will be some major change in the party, the wingnut faction will lose some of its power.
     
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    I argued this point strongly in 2008 and look what has happened since.
     

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