Brewer / Jones For Warren / Morris Makes some sense. Don't know if it works with the hard cap and what not, but if you don't want to pay Jones, this is a nice long term move which cleans up our books and has some upside. Warren is a wing that can actually hit a shot and Morris is a talented offensive player who given a change of scenery, could have quite a turn around.
That's a pretty huge rip off for the Suns lol. Brewer has been really bad, I'm going to find it hard to believe with can trade him without attaching a pick or asset. Warren is their lottery pick whom they think very highly of. Tucker hasn't been playing so well this season and most Suns fan are wanting Warren to start. I think a Jones for Markieff swap is a pretty equal deal right now considering the circumstances, but you add in Brewer who is a clear negative asset and Warren who is a clear positive asset and that trade becomes a robbery. Maybe, Brewer to 3rd team with a pick or 2, Jones and KJ to the Suns and Markieff and Tucker to the Rockets would work. Tucker's contract is only partially guaranteed next season, and he's like a 6'6 Beverley, total pesk on defense, would be a nice player to have off the bench.
Except it isn't. Markieff Morris is having an abysmal year, is facing assault charges and is getting DNP-CDs from his coach. He has no value. He is nothing more than a buy low candidate who may or may not turn things around on a new team. The stupidity train on Clutchfans in regards to Jones is not reality. Jones is a coveted piece around the league and Morris is not.
You can believe I'm not wearing BobbyTheHollic shades when it comes to seeing Tones, you will see I'm one of the poster constantly bumping heads with them in forum over their views on him. That being said, there is, in my opinion, limited value to a expiring PF who will be demanding a lot of money. While Markieff hasnt been playing well and has been a head case, he's locked up on a pretty fair deal considering his real talent and that within its self has value. But that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that even if you removed Markieff from the equation, Jones is not worth Warren or Booker. So how would Jones + a negative contract like Brewer net Warren or Booker? Because Markieff is a part of the deal? The Suns should cut Markieff before trading him, along with one of their highly touted lottery picks for a bad contract and a expiring player who will be asking for a big contract. IMO. But either Brewer isn't eligible for trade and I feel that Markieff will be moved before he is. I doubt a trade with Houston happens simply because we are already struggling with the players in our lockerroom and adding Morris would be a gamble. On top of that no trade for him would be simple, and we would have to likely give up the combination of young players to match contracts.
Agreed with everything ThatBoyNick posted. Too bad I can't rep again. Brewer's negative value is not comparable with Morris. There will be many teams willing to give a chance to Morris since it's obvious this year he doesn't want to be part of the team and is playing badly on purpose. Brew doesn't do that he just plain sucks - and can't shoot at all and is much older. And the Suns count Warren as their SF of the future.
I don't understand the hate of brew. The dude isn't having his best season this year I agree however, he brings energy to the 2nd unit something they need. The past 5 games who has been in in the 4th quarter? Brew has so before you stat eating fools trade him off watch a game and look at the little things he does.
While Brewer does bring energy off the bench he also brings tons of turnovers. Tons of missed 3's. And tons of fouls. I think he had 6 fouls away from the ball the last two games. Some in crunch time when the last thing you need is a foul. He can't play defense without fouling anymore. I like the guy but if you can get ANYTHING back for him you gotta move him. With that said I have a feeling he still won't be moved.
Or look at the big things like the turnovers , the idiotic fouls, the missed layups the horrible defence and the bricking of shots. By all advanced stats AND the eyetest Brewer has been one of the most horrible players to get so many minutes in any team this season.
Not only that Discipline, he misses a tons of layups. People are confusing out of control as energy. He was big time for us last season but he's replaceable and Thornton should get his minutes. Better yet Morey needs to find us a sharp shooter. Where the heck is Ray Allen?
On the stupidity train of Clutchfans....it has as many arrivals as it has departures from the Jones station.
If teams were willing to give Morris a shot, he would be gone. Nobody wants him. Brewer, while not off to a great start is a known quantity, doesn't have assault charges and is not a malcontent. Fans put far too much emphasis on "what have you done for me lately"
The Rockets are not getting TJ Warren in a deal centered around T. Jones. However, Morris does not have a whole lot of positive value either. When his head is screwed on straight he is a rotational 4 on a good team and nothing more. He does not do anything especially well and has had issues with multiple coaches. He has criminal charges pending and the fact he isn't playing well on purpose is a HUGE red flag for any organization. He has 3/24 left on his deal (I think) and while that is solid value under the cap increase, if he plays well, it is a negative if he continues to mail it in. There is a real question as to whether the Morris twins will play well apart, his brother Marcus isn't playing well either. If Morey decides he wants Markieff (not a professional and not a good idea) then he should also target Mirza Teletovic, he would really help the spacing. Honestly the Rockets have too many weirdos/freaks on their team as it is with Jones, Harden, Howard, Lawson etc.
Come to find out there actually isn't a huge market for undersized bigs who ... A. Are convicted felons with pending court dates for violent offenses B. Have a twin brother that they absolutely need to play with or you will have a problem C. Whose best assets on the court is a turnaround mid range jumper D. Doesn't defend or rebound E. Has a history of leading the league in technicals F. Has called out the fans of his home team G. Has called out publicly one of the best players on the team H. Has another 3 years left on his contract I. Was offended that his team would have the audacity to think that LaMarcus Aldridge is a better player than Markieff that they should pursue J. Statistically produces at a lower or equivalent level to Terrence Jones No way... you mean half the league isn't busting down the door to trade for him??? Naw... Sounds like a real peach... Where do I sign???
If the Suns don't want to give up TJ Warren (apparently) and the (rumored) deal centers around the contract of Corey Brewer then why would we insist on sending out the unnecessary player of Terrence Jones. Why wouldn't it just be a 1 for 1 deal? If you are theoretically taking Markieff and his issues off of Phoenix's hands, then taking back Brewer should be enough to get the deal done since you are the one doing them all the favors in the deal. While Brewer has had a let-down season, there still really isn't a huge need to deal him right now, and maybe not this Summer if a max free agent isn't interested in coming to Houston. The Rockets are doing all the favors for Phoenix, why are we wanting to gift them more assets??? They should be giving the Rockets a pick as well to do a Markieff for Brewer swap IMO.
