The details of my life are quite inconsequential Where do I begin? I invented the question mark. By my 3rd birthday I proved scientifically that chestnuts are lazy.
Never thought I would see a recomentation of the Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene" on clutchfans. ****, it the season that bad?
Okay, first of all, did you even read nopepper's post all the way through? He actually never questioned your credibility and pretty much just tried to address your frustration with the use of statistics on this board (which I admit, is not often sound in analysis or usage). I'll concede that his suggestion that you were inebriated may have been uncool. However, you pompously spat your resume in an aggressive defense, and then proceeded to challenge his credentials. All you did was prove that you have an exceedingly condescending manner towards other posters on this board (which is also reflected in your original post btw). Be open to the possibility of insight from unexpected sources, and at the end of the day this is just a fan forum trying to have a meaningful discussion about a children's game. And especially since you have such an educated background, just use the opportunity to share your insight with some inexperienced and misinformed members on the board instead of just creating a rant thread.
worst poster on this board has quickly moved from bballholic to draftboy10 probably one in the same and also the doofus that goes into the texans forum and ignores the fact he's oblivious to any factual, statistically driven, accurate analysis.
Here's the problem with this thread. There isn't enough data. You aren't going to find enough instances where the vast majority of variables are the same. So you're left with two choices. 1. Refuse to attempt to draw meaningful conclusions/actionable results due to imperfect data. 2. Use data you do have to help you paint the picture. Each piece of data is just a part of the overall puzzle. No one is saying because x player has a PER of y, he is a bad basketball player but it is meaningful to for instance say x player is/has: DFG% of A PER of B Steal/Block rate of C OREB rate of D EFG% of E etc etc and draw a meaningful conclusion. Then when you have this, it's just data. But basketball players are people. There is a huge hidden element that isn't ever measured. I guess you call this psychology. Was the player sad that day? Did he get enough rest the night before? What did he eat and was it the same? How much water did he have during the game? My point is, you're never going to get a perfect data set so are you suggesting we shouldn't even try? I don't understand the point of your post really besides condescending on folks to make yourself feel better.
Besides, if you're so awesome... Don't you have better things to do other than coming to fan forums and teaching us how to use stats.
It's a good book, you cannot deny this. I did share and provide my insight, and was attacked. So I provided my credentials. This is correct 1. This is essentially my point 2. Go back to #1, you can't just assume things in statistics, this is where interpretation kills everything. In stats, very few things are a "given". It's interesting you say this stuff, because this is the stuff Morey's right hand man and top tank commander, Sam Hinkie , is doing in Philadelphia. I'm taking about macronutrient intake study to body language study. I'm serious, he's doing this stuff in Philadelphia. These "tanking" years are going to be a data set for him in the better years. Point of this thread was actually everything you just said. I enjoyed this discussion, and this is what I mean. Imperfect data, for the most part.
No, not really. I am going to go to my second ugly sweater christmas party in a little bit but this afternoon I just took my dogs to a park and read a book. And obviously chilled on here. And I never said I'm awesome, I just said I'm qualified to go against the grain when everybody and their mom has a reason to spew "stats" to defend themselves.
I am now able to infer the values for a couple of previously unknown variables regarding your persona (besides the ones you so literally provided in your response): IsReadingComprehensionRequiredToGraduateFromPrinceton = false IsMemberOfClutchfansToIgnore = true </bye>
I think a lot of work, in fact a lot more work and effort, is put forth in order to grab a much better understanding of the the mechanics of basketball than you've ever given thought to. You are not an innovator. You aren't a pioneer. Hell, you don't even put in the work to grind out the numbers and understand what your quant co-workers are giving you. You came on here to state the painfully obvious and blog about your life on a basketball board.
I'm not really surprised they're measuring nutrient intake and trying to spot trends based on that. I would guess a lot more teams are doing it too, because to me it's a bit obvious, you are what you eat. The hard part I imagine would be accurately gathering the data (because you rely on the individuals), aside from isolating all the variables. At the end of the day though for me, I think someone who draws a conclusion based on some type of data is better than people just drawing conclusions based on what they perceive/see watching games. You tend to get a lot more of the latter out of your typical sports fan and if they do use data, people hardly dig in even deeper to see if it even makes sense. I will definitely personally attest to bending stats to make my point. As someone else said in this thread, we're a fan forum talking about a game. Adjust your expectations accordingly. Now if you worked in the Rockets analytics department, by all means, but you'd also probably not be on this board posting your findings to the public.
So nihilism? Or this is a multi billion dollar industry that has used/increasingly using big data to try and gain an edge?
