Rockets have a 1.21 Points per Shot, which is 9th in the league. Of course, we shoot the most 3s, which is surely the reason for a higher PPS than I'd expect. Higher than I'd expect, because we are also: 26th in the league for 3FG% 24th in the league for FT% 12th in the league for 2FG% Looks like we have a lot of room for improvement, even at 9th in the league. Our Points per Possession is probably pretty bad, though. Will try to look that up.
fwiw: by comparison, San Antonio is #19 in PPS. They appear to be winning with the best defense by far, stats wise. On quick look, only found one site with Points per Possession for Teams. We looked to be in the Average range.
That's what happens when you take the best shots in the league, even when your execution is god-awful, the results are still pretty good. Imagine if we were making our shots or if we were playing even halfway competent defense?
fwiw: PHI is 4th in the league in three-pointers as a % of total shots, and Top 5 in Open Looks on those threes. Yet, they are 28th in the league in PPS.
How is it that we are 9th in PPS, but 21st in eFG%? http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2016.html?lid=standings_team I think the reason for our relatively high PPS is the free throws, not the 3-pointers. We're 2nd in free throws made and attempted.
Their defense is really bad which means the other teams are probably shooting a high PPS when they play the Rockets, plus bad defense leads to a slower pace because they keep having to take the ball out. Slower pace = less possessions. In the last 5 games, the Rockets are 4-1. They have the 2nd best offensive rating in the league at 108 points per 100 possessions. But their defense is the 26th in the league, giving up 106.5 points per 100 possessions.
But does PPS count FTs? I assumed it counts AND-1s, but maybe not. And what about FTs when no FGA occurred?
Interesting thread We're 24th in FT% and #2 in FTA. Looks like we're better at getting FTs than we suck at making them :grin:
The PPS on ESPN, which heypartner is probably referring to, simply measures PTS/FGA. The Rockets make a lot of free throws, that's why they rank rather high in that category. However, the stat doesn't really tells us much as it doesn't take the efficiency from the line into account. If we look at TS%, which measures how efficiently a team is scoring, the Rockets rank 19th.
but if they were then we'd have an even higher ranking. I guess why this is interesting to me is that we can have such a relatively high ranking despite turrible 3pt% and eFG% (which includes FTs) Obviously our poor W/L record is greatly affected by our poor defense. And SAS proves a low PPS ranking and their low reliance on 3s is offset by their #1 defense
thx for looking up the definition. Yes, i was using ESPNs rankings. to your comment that TS% or efg% tells us more, games arent won based on %s though, they are won based on points. PPS is a fine stat for the offensive side if the ball
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on this point. PPS does nothing better than TS%, it only does less. TS% is not a perfect measure for offensive efficiency by any means because it omits turnovers, but so does PPS. To illustrate the basic concept of these stats (TS% is calculated a bit differently to account for and-1s, but the main idea is reflected here): PPS: (Points from 2PTA + Points from 3PTA + Points from FTA) / (2PTA + 3PTA) TS%: (Points from 2PTA + Points from 3PTA + Points from FTA) / (2PTA + 3PTA + FTA) In other words: If two teams shoot and hit the exact same number of two pointers and three pointers on average, but team 1 shoots 20/30 from the line while team 2 shoots 20/20 from the line, PPS gives them the same number. However, team 1 will be way worse because they "waste" about 5 possessions per game by missing free throws. TS% corrects that. If you want to, you can just multiply TS% by 2 to get a better PPS-measure. I hope my point became clear.
My dear NGL friend please refer to this thread: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=270858 And for this particular stat, we need the following: 1) League average possessions in a game vs. Rockets possessions(how many and where do we sit) 2) Free throws(is this accounted for) 3) Is it adjusted for when Dwight is playing and when he is not?(is this accounted for) Let's start there, before we say this is an "interesting" stat and before we think our offense is actually good. 4)
Rox PPP is 1.00389. Good for 20th in the league. Total Points Scored/(FGA's+.44*FTA's+TO's-ORB's) Golden State Warriors 1.137013589 Oklahoma City Thunder 1.068065113 Cleveland Cavaliers 1.04906043 Charlotte Hornets 1.038587386 Los Angeles Clippers 1.038386246 Atlanta Hawks 1.036907017 Toronto Raptors 1.031883342 Indiana Pacers 1.028345051 Portland Trail Blazers 1.027549433 Phoenix Suns 1.026570048 San Antonio Spurs 1.02637317 Sacramento Kings 1.016480853 Miami Heat 1.015105665 New Orleans Pelicans 1.014787614 Dallas Mavericks 1.012894127 Boston Celtics 1.009755794 Orlando Magic 1.008607902 Minnesota Timberwolves 1.006417089 Utah Jazz 1.004932182 Houston Rockets 1.003895567 Milwaukee Bucks 0.996172189 Memphis Grizzlies 0.994183408 New York Knicks 0.99398818 Detroit Pistons 0.990836774 Washington Wizards 0.984311272 Denver Nuggets 0.982375183 Chicago Bulls 0.974353921 Los Angeles Lakers 0.966165809 Brooklyn Nets 0.963132172 Philadelphia 76ers 0.913077431
try, Yeah, I understand how the TS% and eFG% is calculated. And that .44 multiplier is an average, which clearly the Rockets surpass as #2 FTA team in the league. PPS gets more to the point (pun intended), imo, and uses no generalized multiplier. Points per Possession is a better stat than that, since it naturally accounts for TOs. But since it is not easily determined by box scores, it's hard to find as a stat.
The true measure of offensive efficiency is Points Per Possession, not Points Per Shot. As some have pointed out, we shoot a lot of FT which are "free" points in PPS, but not in PPP. If a player or a team shoots a lot of FT, the PPS will be good. Guys like James Harden and Kevin Martin always have great PPS because they get a lot of foul shots.
