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<BREAKING> Active Shooter in San Bernardino, California

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by youknowme, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. g1184

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    Facts and the truth are like kryptonite to these people.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Are people still clinging to the jump to conclusions meme.


    I don't have any idea if it was workplace violence, Jihadi terrorism, some strange combination of both, and neither do you. There are only guesses right now.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    The other key point: the population of France is less than a quarter that of the U.S. So Obama need to quit spouting lies and instead look at the facts.
     
  4. roxxfan

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    Obama is smarter and more important than you. Shut up. Yes this is logical fallacy, but I wanted to point it out to you. Good day.
     
  5. pirc1

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    What does that have to do with death rate by gun?
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Air Langhi's link comparing gun death rates between France and the US EXPLICTLY in bold letters, parallel to the y-axis, state 'DEATHS PER 100,000'.

    Do you even mother ****in read?
     
  7. glynch

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    Read the news, son. Let info rather than prejudice inform your opinions. Even crazy kids in highschool in the numerous mass killings in the US have used or attempted to use pipe bombs.

    So, again aside from your hope that this will feed into your Islamaphobia, do you have any evidence yet?

    As an aside even Muslims along with Christians can get mad at their work place or school place and engage in mass killings in the US. Not very often of course in countries with modern gun laws.:(
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    There are laws against pipe bombs.

    Anyway this is all part of the distraction that always comes out when these things happen. Yes guns don't kill people, people kill people but guns make it far easier to kill people. Just in this case alone consider that virtually all of the casualties were caused by the guns while few of the bombs detonated. The fact is that it is far harder to make bombs that it is to get guns especially when you can buy them legally as it appears in this case.

    So yes determined people will find ways to kill people but the problem is that we make it far to easy for them to find ways to kill people rather than making it harder.

    Also yes the ideology is dangerous but this isn't an either or situation and to make it as such is a distraction. We can try to deal with the the root causes as much as we can deal with the means and the methods.
     
  9. Nolen

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    Deaths per 100,000.

    Do you know what "per capita" means?
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Obama, the same guy that

    1) Called ISIS the "JV squad"
    2) Claimed that ISIS was contained, only hours before the Paris massacre
    3) Claimed that the US was safe from a "Paris-style attack" only a day prior to the San Bernardino massacre?

    sorry he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me.
     
  11. pahiyas

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    Huh?
    You have just shown me a keypoint when reading anything you post. Thanks.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    The key point is that France has suffered more casualties from mass shootings JUST IN 2015 than the US has in all of Obama's time in office. And France's population is only ~60 million people, vs. 300 million in the US.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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  14. Air Langhi

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    Except it hasn't and I posted where the data came from. Stop making stuff up.
     
  15. bigtexxx

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    Public shootings.

    Did you even read your link? Lots of "unknown" entries... Doesn't look credible

    next.
     
  16. TheRealist137

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    Where the **** is your link? Posting such as yours should be banned from the D&D, spewing "facts" without providing support is a detriment to the forum. Be better.
     
  17. larsv8

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    Bigtexx doesn't understand what per Capita is. LOL
     
  18. B-Bob

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    So many threads could be halfway interesting if millions of irate people would just ignore his trolling.

    To the topic, this is kind of a nightmare case for us. Let's admit it. Peaceful American raised person goes on military grade rampage, and unlike many of our shooters, happens to be Muslim. Married to middle eastern woman 1 yr before rampage. Helps her come to US. Nightmare. ISIS probably not involved but they could not manufacture a better PR event in terms of increasing anxiety and mistrust between peoples in America.
     
  19. MojoMan

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    Yes, we can all see now just how "peaceful" this person was.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    I understand the muslims are bad thing, but what exactly are you going to do about it?

    You want to start have the government monitor all Muslims and basically violate the 1st amendment?

    Republicans are all about the 2nd amendment, but they are ok with violating the 1st amendment aka the most import amendment in the bill or rights?
     

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