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ClutchFans Game Thread: Pelicans @ Rockets 12/2/2015

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Remlap

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    MORE TY ball handling and LESS Harden ISO

    Looks like it works!
    What do you know?

    MORE! MORE! MORE!
     
  2. Rocket River

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    No such thing as a bad win at this point in the season

    Rocket River
     
  3. Uprising

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    DMO coming back is going to be a huge lift for the team....can't wait.

    These early holes the team keeps digging themselves into....every freaking game.
     
  4. YOLO

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    no they haven't. there's a difference in actually running it through lawson and everything else understanding it instead of just giving it and lawson and everyone watching which has been the case from the beginning. By no means has Lawson been given the opportunity to run the offense fluidly and everyone else understanding what he is doing. anyone who thinks lawson has been given a legit chance doesn't understand the PG position.
     
  5. YOLO

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    team ball even with 3's takes precedent over isolation jack up 3's that harden has been doing thus far. what's more likely to give your chance a win? getting open shots by playing team ball or constant isolation, dribbling the air out of the ball only to take a contested 3 like Harden has been doing. That should be an easy answer for anyone that follows the game intelligently.
     
  6. Liberon

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    Harden is a great player and all but he might be too concerned with dropping 40+ regardless of efficiency rather than scoring just under 30 while incorporating the entire team.
     
  7. onreego

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    Don't know about him being "too concerned" with scoring 40. Somehow he still gets 6 assist with those 40 pts from a team that is struggling terribly to score outside of him.

    I think actual inside presence with DMo will help this team a lot but as I said in another thread it's going to take him time to be back to game shape.
     
  8. YOLO

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    its not hard to get 6 assist when you play 40 mins a game and have the ball in your hands 90% of the time. that's not impressive
     
  9. YaoMing#1

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    1. Is legit I don't know what JB and Ariza were thinking putting Harden on two smaller quicker guards. (I guess Tyreek is hardens size)

    2/3. Tjones is the most frustrating player on the roster (more than brewer and that's saying something) but he did provide a huge spark in the first quarter I believe. After that he was hot garbage.

    4. Dwight and Harden need to run more pick n roll, I'm not sure why they don't run it more. With that said dwight might set some of the worse screens in the league he releases before harden or any ball handler can even get one dribble around him. Needless to say he has a weird game last night.

    5. Hate it I don't understand why they have him do it so often he's not very good at it. He makes one good pass out of 10 tries. It's like there trying to make him into a chandler Parsons role. He needs to spot up or take 3 dribbles max on a drive to the basket.

    6. Brewer had an impactful game so I'm not going to rail him. He needs to quit that 1-4 crap. There should be a rule for him if he has to take more than 3 dribbles he needs to just pass.

    7. Refs were bad they let AD get away with murder out there.

    Positives

    1. Lawson was fantastic I kept screaming at my tv when he wasn't in the game. The offense was great when he was in there hope it continues.

    2. Brew played really good defense last night. As a whole they all did after the 1st quarter and that's why they won.

    I think it was a good team win that should get the moral of the team back up. It was nice to see them enjoying playing basketball showing so life and jumping in each other. Sometimes love is all you need!!! I hope they can play with this fire and energy but just sharpen the tools. If they can do that this team will be fine.

    Ultimately I thought this was the best team win of the season everyone tried hard and made plays for others. It was nice to see.
     
  10. onreego

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    Whether you like him or not, he is the best creator on the team for offense. That's including the coaches that are supposed to be drawing up an efficient offense.

    Up until Ty found himself the last two games Harden was their only offense. I'm well aware of his struggles this season and his lack of effort but lets not talk like the rest of the team has shown any ability to score easily without him.
     
  11. YOLO

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    contrary to what some people like you believe he is not the best creater. That was no longer true the minute Houston acquired Lawson
     
  12. Rocket4Life11

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    You hate Harden we get it.
     
  14. YOLO

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    so because the truth is being told, that means I hate Harden:rolleyes:Please learn to add more to your simplistic comments before you draw unintelligent conclusions
     
  15. onreego

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    Must have missed the part where I said "Up until Ty found himself." You can't deny that Ty has been struggling as much as you hate Harden. But yeah, carry on.
     
  16. YOLO

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    if you dont put Lawson in positions to succeed where he can play to his strengths of course he's going to struggle. What has he played his entire career thus far, the PG position. Coming here, he all of a sudden turns into a off ball, spot up 3 pter shooter who ball watches like everyone else. Ty really hasn't found himself. He's always been this player from the "last 2 games". The difference in what you have seen recently is he's actually being allowed to run the offense a bit while the rest of the team is actually running with him and getting an understanding of what he's doing rather then give him the ball and just watch him do something.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    The first time in 114 games.....he avgs 6 assists and 5 turnovers a game - that is terrible for a guy that is the primary ball handler.

    It is Jeremy Lin like.....

    Lawson is somewhere in the 3-1 ish range....

    Let's start playing smart basketball going forward, less ball in Harden's hands to initiate, more in Lawsons.

    DD
     
  18. SF3isBack!!

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    Harden gets 0 turnovers and still manages to get blamed for everything, lol. Meanwhile Lawson who literally was given the ball by harden on numerous occasions and told to run the offense has completely sucked before yesterday. Lawson is no victim he's been given plenty of chances he just never delivers. Let's hope last night was the start of him removing his head from his ass.
     
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    If only James understood that he as the superstar player can always get a shot off AFTER we run our offense through Lawson. And the truth be told, he'd be getting higher quality shots than he is creating for himself right now.

    Why not a secondary drive downhill at the basket after Lawson has forced the defense to collapse and then scramble to recover on him?

    Why not the wide open 3-ball shot in space when Lawson collapses the defense?

    Why not the post-up on the wing after we run a set of PnR through Lawson/Dwight that has the defense scrambled up?

    Why not wait until the opponent brings in their bench players and then feasting on the opponents backup unit from the top while Lawson is spelled?

    Why not take 5 possessions a game with Lawson in there running the show and go to the arc weakside and stand there and let the D faceguard you while Lawson draws fouls or throws the oop up to our bigs? Why not catch a little break offensively so you can go back down and actually D up more?

    Why keep forcing everything and getting off low percentage shots and exhausting himself in the process?

    Harden's a great player. He could be even better if he would learn to share the limelight. And if he were willing to do that...this team...would be a different team with much less tweaking required and more flexibility in player fit around him ... and Howard ... and Lawson.
     
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  20. BMoney

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    This is not just on Harden, though. Lawson needs to continue to be more aggressive. Bickerstaff also needed to adjust the rotations to get Lawson going and develop some sets with Harden as a more traditional two guard in the offense.
     

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