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[BREAKING] Shooting in San Bernardino, CA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by vstexas09, Dec 2, 2015.

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  1. Mr.Scarface

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    There were not 3 people. The 3rd person was arrested but i bet it turns out they were not involved.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    It doesn't which is why I'm not ruling anything out. One possibility that occurred to me was that Farook is actually a radical who was preparing a terrorist attack but also happened to hate his coworkers enough to launch that attack at his job.

    If this is an act of terrorism particularly by DAESH or its sympathizers I would expect a claim of responsibility and a statement. I haven't seen anything like that yet.
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    You dont have to believe me. Fact....he worked for the health department. Fact he was an investigator for them. Fact....he showed up at the party and got into an altercation.
     
  4. hotballa

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    I think mundane targets cause more fear than big ones imo. I can avoid going tonhigh profile places like the world trade center, but I can't avoid going to the supermarket or the DMV
     
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    Another fact. They are now saying its not the same guy. Apparently the poor fellow who worked there is Syed R. Farook. The guy who shot up the place is Syed Farook, no R
     
  6. hotballa

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    People who were there saw 3 shooters.
     
  7. DAROckets

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    They may have been some of the so called self radicalized and just picked the target because it was familiar territtory
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    People saw 1- 3 gun.
     
  9. Mr.Scarface

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    Um....people have identified the person who worked there as the gun. Come on now...
     
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    Columbine had two shooters.
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    Tayyip Erdogan is the name of the President of Turkey. This is a made-up hoax name, not even in Arabic.

    They might as well have claimed that the second suspect's name is Kobe Bin Bryant.
     
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    Shooting up a supermarket in LA, NY, Chicago, DC, SF etc.. is very different than shooting in San Bernadino. One reason Boston carried such resonance even though only 4 people died is that the Boston Marathon is an iconic event. The IRC in San Bernadino is a place that few outside of Riverside County have heard of. Further San Bernadino isn't representative of much of the US or what most people think of the US. The crime rate in San Bernadino was already relatively high so not a place where people felt that secure to begin with.

    DAESH and Al Qaeda are media savvy and understand psychological warfare. It seems strange that they would be willing to go through the trouble of planning an attack on someplace that isn't well known or identified.
     
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    Great catch.
     
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    The police who stopped the SUV said one guy rolled out and escaped as they were engaged with assault rifle gun fire by the two who remained in the SUV.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SB police clarifying that 2nd name was not released by them. Appears now to be a hoax. We are disregarding.</p>&mdash; Rick Serrano (@RickSerranoLAT) <a href="https://twitter.com/RickSerranoLAT/status/672280932703932417">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    But she is a Qatari national, right?
     
  17. CometsWin

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    You're making the assumption the location was ordered by some type of leadership. They may have been planning an attack, the one guy flipped out at the party, decided this was a good spot, and then went to get his weapons/partners. If they'd planned this location and had a more concrete plan they'd have to be incredibly dumb to go home since his co-workers would have ID'ed him easily.
     
  18. Space Ghost

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    As time goes on, attacks will become more decentralized. We have stayed relatively free from attacks because we keep their communications disrupted. Its hard to plan elaborate attacks w/out drawing scrutiny. If this does turn out to be ISIS, they have accomplished their mission.
     
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    Have you ever had someone spit in your eggnog, bro?
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Very possible and I stated earlier that it could be he was a radical but hated his coworkers enough to start his attack at his work place.

    That said though it is also still an assumption to say this was the work of a member of a terrorist organization, radicalized by one, or meant to convey any message other than hatred of one's coworkers. At this point it's all speculative but as with other situations we should be cautious about conclusions with very very limited info.
     

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