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Did you see Ariza on the last plays tonight?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by theprof, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. Liberon

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    I almost forgot Ariza and Battier were once teammates..... Ariza was frustrated back then as well...
     
  2. SF3isBack!!

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    Considering the relationship between Brewer and Mchale this information would be biased. Also Harden had no problem listening to Thibs, Brooks and Coach K. Maybe just maybe he had no confidence in Mchale's abilities. It's well documented by explayers and Mchale himself that he is not exactly an in game strategist or X's and O's coach. Everyone call Mchale Morey's puppet when they want to prove a point against Morey but they completely skip over that fact when trying to prove a point against Harden.
     
  3. SF3isBack!!

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    This is not true. I now understand why you guys think the way you do. You have no idea how basketball works. Without Brewer it is more likely that we would have won by a wider margin. Why? Because overall Brewer is a negative. What does that mean? It means Brew does more things to hurt us than to help us. Had he not played the overall negative things he did would not have happened and we wouldn't need his 7 points. Harden is a positive, his positives outweigh his negatives and he's very efficient without him we more than likely get blown out. It is no coincidence that when Brewer was in the game and Harden wasn't we were losing. Harden knows this and at some point late in the game he trusted himself more than he trusted them and with great reason.
     
  4. ibm

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    if it's the overall +/- stat that you were talking about,,, here they are:

    ariza = +11
    capela = +15
    dwight = +1
    harden = +13
    bev = -6
    tjones = -14
    lawson = +8
    brewer = -9
    thornton = -9
    terry = 0

    no come again, you bball guru, and tell us capela was really the #1 reason we won the game?
     
  5. digitallinh

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    15 and 13 are close enough to essentially be equal when you're talking about a one game sample of plus minus, but yes. Capela and Harden were the best players last game. 13/10/2 in 24 minutes is pretty damn good if you ask me.
     
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    Harden should've told him, you can get the ball if you learn how to dribble
     
  7. Rio Rocket

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    speaking of clint +15... putting him in the starting lineup was gutsy and it worked. cant believe he was on the bench for corey down the stretch.
     
  8. SF3isBack!!

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    This would be a smart reply if I ever mention the +/- stat. No I do not advocate the plus minus stat it's nowhere in my post. I'm talking about overall play not that hollow stat.
     
  9. ibm

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    so what exactly was the "overall play" you're talking about? how do you measure it? your eyeballs?
     
  10. MoreydaGOAT

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    dude your a harden hater
     
  11. ibm

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    so safe to say harden was ONE OF the reasons we won this particular game? and if yes, that's a big difference from harden was the (sole) reason we won, eh?

    yeah, that's all what i was talking about.
     
  12. Rio Rocket

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    time? cant find this play. i see a 3 on 3 transition play at 1:20 in the fourth, where he drives and gets fouled.
     
  13. ibm

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    yes, the change in starting lineup was a good surprise. one of the positive changes i saw last night. and it worked to a large extent. why jbb went away from it in the 2nd half is still a myth, tho.
     
  14. SF3isBack!!

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    You're being dense. Brewer sucks if you need more than your eyeballs to tell you that I feel sorry for you. There are plenty of stats that show just how brewer sucks and why his 7 points was really irrelevant but really you shouldn't need them, it's pretty damn clear. Someone has convinced you that using your "eyeballs" is somehow bad. I don't know who but maybe if you used yours you wouldn't be in this thread trying to argue that we would not have won the game if it not for Corey Brewer, lol. You guys are borderline ridiculous.
     
  15. ibm

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    do you have the intelligence to tell i wasnt even talking about brewer? i couldve said if ariza didnt score 12pts and did 9 instead, we'd still lose. or dwight, or capela, or anyone else. i couldve still made my point.

    now who is "dense" again?

    btw, if there are "plenty of" stats that can actually show brewer sucked last night, what are they? care to share 1 or 2?
     
  16. RocketsFido

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    yep, I saw that. Ariza was getting in place for a screen play and just raised his hands up signalling "wtf!" when he saw that Harden wanted to ISO.
     
  17. Rodman23

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    ariza sucks
     
  18. heypartner

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    Oh, you got us. There are often no suckitude stats for single games. I guess that proves he didn't suck last night. :rolleyes:

    I leave you to contemplate the image of an NBA player fouling a three pt shooter with 6 seconds left when up by 4 pts.
     
  19. heypartner

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    It's a called play from the bench.

    Also note that Beverley and Ariza actually went to the same wing position, and after Ariza shrugged, Bev went over to the other corner and Ariza slid to his 4-flat position on the corner 3 as well. Could have just been a miscommunication between Ariza and Bev.
     
  20. SF3isBack!!

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    You actually were talking about Brewer. Actually you were talking about the whole team and if I'm not mistaken you specifically mentioned Brewer's 7 points as one reason we won. You were wrong and now you are backing off that statement.

    What you dont get is when people say Harden had to score 50 they are not just saying it to give him credit. When Harden does not score the way he did last night we don't win. There have been games where James backed off scoring and let his teammates help carry... guess what? we lose. Harden has to be selfish until he gets better teammates or until his current teammates improve.
     

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