Sorry, I might be too slow. I didn't understand that statement. So you're worried that a bunch of people you disagree with will wade into the BBS and blame a record El Nino on a warming planet overall? So your aim is short-circuiting that sort of conversation with the original post. Do I understand it right?
I'm not saying I disagree or agree anyone on any particular subject. I think it is appropriate to define the current climate conditions in the situation that there are any anomalous weather events this winter. People should have all the facts at hand before discussing such matters.
Record-crushing October keeps Earth on track for hottest year in 2015 By Jason Samenow November 17 at 10:37 AM It was Earth’s warmest October ever recorded and it wasn’t even close. The record*shattering month was right in step with most of the preceding months in 2015 — which is positioned to easily rank as the warmest year on record. New data from the Japan Meteorological Agency and NASA show that the planet obliterated October records established just last year. October 2015 out*baked October 2014 by 0.34 degrees (0.19 Celsius) and 0.32 degrees (0.18 Celsius) in JMA and NASA’s analyses, respectively. And these records are breaking records. The planet’s temperature departure from the long*term average of 1.04 Celsius in October is the greatest of any month ever recorded by NASA. It marked the first time a monthly temperature anomaly exceeded 1 degrees Celsius in records dating back to 1880. The previous largest anomaly was 0.97 Celsius from January, 2007. The toasty October put another exclamation mark on a year that has essentially locked up the title of warmest on record. In August, the Earth’s average temperature was running so far ahead of 2014, the previous warmest year, that NOAA said there was 97 percent chance 2015 would surpass it. Then, the planet recorded its warmest September ever recorded by an unprecedented margin. Earlier this month, Britain’s weather service, the Met Office, and NASA both stated that the Earth’s average temperature is likely to rise 1 degree Celsius above pre*industrial levels for the first time by the end of this year. This milestone is significant since it marks the halfway point to two degrees Celsius, the internationally accepted limit for avoiding the worst consequences of climate change. Temperatures have trended upward over the last several decades, spurred by increasing and unrelenting emissions of heat*trapping gases like carbon dioxide. Meanwhile, since the spring, a strengthening El Niño event, which is now near record levels, has bumped this year’s temperatures to all*time highs. El Niño events release vast amounts of heat from the tropical Pacific into the atmosphere. This year’s event is near its peak and may begin to weaken soon, but is expected to remain strong into the winter, likely keeping global average temperatures above or at least very near previous record levels. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...top-stories_cwg-october-1210pm:homepage/story
Perhaps the most powerful El Niño ever. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...shatter-as-a-monster-el-nino-gathers-strength
I can't speak for the OP, but that is what concerns me. I have to spend the winter bombarded by front page articles blaming unusual rainfall and snow on man-made Climate Change.
Though the term is ill defined even by climatologist, the shortest period for "climate" is the trend over about 50 years. And that is used only to describe the most volatile changes. Really climate is the trending conditions over hundreds or thousands of years. If carbon alarmist use weather for climate it's because the implications are so dire and the human response has been slow. They want to light a fire under the human race. If a Senator holds up a snowball in Congress it's because his reasoned thought has been bought off and paid for by Carbon producers. Senators Voting to Block EPA Rules Received 17 Times as Much Money from the Coal Mining Industry http://maplight.org/content/senator...times-as-much-money-from-the-coal-mining-indu
Are we allowed to use individual months and seasons or information from selected locations to back up our hypotheses now? Last time I tried to do that, the warmists I was dialoguing with insisted that was improper and became quite hysterical. Just checking. Because what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and winter is coming.
Why wouldn't you just accept the general consensus of Climate scientist instead of trying to make a laymen's argument?
What is the general consensus? That we are all Nazis bringing about the next great environmental panic?
what is there to bring up lately if all of the hottest years are coming in succession over and over?? do you understand what i'm saying? unless you are talking about regional weather or something.
Are you frustrated all you can reply with is a question because you do not know what is the consensus?
Oh, come on. Of course I'm frustrated and I do know. The consensus is we are all Nazis bringing about the next great environmental panic.
Where??? Whatever. If you are obsessed with finding insult and offense, ye shall succeed. I never understood the point of the thread, but if we're talking weather, I have consistently said I am very interested in getting data on this el nino event. If that is interpreted as "disparaging," I don't know what to tell you, but I won't start by making actual disparaging remarks.
