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MCHALE FIRED!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Nov 18, 2015.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rox owner Leslie Alexander: "The team was obviously not responding on offense, on defense, weren't playing hard. It continued for a while."</p>— Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/667044808008052736">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alexander: "I've never seen my team ... team play as poorly and w/ less effort. I'm not attributing it to the coach. I had to do something."</p>— Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/667045178172178432">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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That's pretty much to it. At this point, they can't do much but to fire McHale to change things up. I would have given him another 10 games though.

#461 AvgJoe, Nov 18, 2015

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What else do you want them to do? Trade everybody? We need a coach who holds them accountable, I'm not sure if JB is right for the job either, I hope we get Thibs.
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If we get Thibs you can kiss every player's Career over. Look what he did to Rose.

#462 Rocketsnbeyond, Nov 18, 2015
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I woke up to some great news!

#463 Mattician, Nov 18, 2015
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If we get Thibs you can kiss every player's Career over. Look what he did to Rose.
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We have a short window anyway, gotta go all in.

#464 mfastx, Nov 18, 2015
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aznboi said: ↑

This is pretty bad, when has an interim coach ever led a team to the promised land?
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I see what you did there.

#465 Sooner423, Nov 18, 2015
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The Stig said: ↑

Luke Walton will if Kerr doesn't come back. Have you seen the Warriors lately?
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smh, Kerr still keeps in contact with the wrriors at half-time through skype

luke walton is the next alvin gentry waiting to happen

#466 Harden2Capela, Nov 18, 2015
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Any insiders hear anything on coach replacements?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Howard? The guy McHale said was the only guy reliably defending with conviction? He came closest to saving his job. <a href="https://t.co/3qUplk0Ove">https://t.co/3qUplk0Ove</a></p>— Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/667045530921508864">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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#468 zeeshan2, Nov 18, 2015
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mfastx said: ↑

What else do you want them to do? Trade everybody? We need a coach who holds them accountable, I'm not sure if JB is right for the job either, I hope we get Thibs.
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Not sure where I said that. It could turn out to be the right decision -- who knows? I just think it largely absolves the players of responsibility, and I don't like that aspect.

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Thats hilarious!

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ok now that i posted, i have to get in my jokes..

at the players meeting
ariza - what are supposed to do here? im an elite 3d guy and i cant do s**t

dwight - what about me? im the guy who anchors your 3d status and its like i dont exist.

harden - yeah you know i think mchale has to go. he's done a lot for the team but im gettin tired of his half ass "cmon guys play harder" speeches and always claps twice after. its always two claps, not one or 5 but two claps. it gets to your head you know?

beverley - yeah that s**t drove me crazy bruh! PLAY HARDER :CLAP CLAP:wtf does that even mean?

lawson - i havent even been here half a year and i wanna drink again hearing him say that s**t. and yall shoot too many threes daam. calm down with those
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Os Trigonum said: ↑

not many fans of this move out there yet.

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I agree with all this but they tuned out McHale...these ego driven bastards so hands were tied in my opinion...now the spotlight will be on the players no more McHale blaming

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also hearing Kevin McHale was notified late last night via text. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rockets?src=hash">#rockets</a></p>— David Nuño (@DavidNunoABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidNunoABC13/status/667018050093248512">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Now we need to make shots and defend. I think that last game was the final straw for Mchale. We had a 15 point lead then the other team gets a lead of 29 points by the forth. Mchale didn't change anything in that game. The coaching was absent.

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First, can a team playing as poorly as the Rockets really have improved the roster as much as we thought? On paper, yes, but in terms of fit and chemistry, not so much.

That's interim coach J.B. Bickerstaff's job now, along with fixing Houston's no-effort defense and mending what league sources describe as conflicting priorities between the front office and the coaching staff.

"Is this the first crack in the analytics revolution, where they start hanging the revolutionaries themselves?" a person in the coaching business asked Wednesday. "[The Rockets] still haven't figured out chemistry. They keep adding and adding, but none of it fits."

From the addition of Ty Lawson to the on-again, off-again contributions of Dwight Howard, to a distracted and poor-shooting James Harden, the Rockets won't fare any better with a fresh coaching voice unless the players wake up, play better and fit better.

And not to get all trendy-buzzy-social-conversation-y on you, but there is one thing different about Harden this season that celebrity gossip conspiracy theorists will surely seize upon: his dating choices.

"The person they should fire," the coaching source said, "is Khloe Kardashian."

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"I dare you to find a better person than Kevin McHale," said a coaching agent who doesn't even represent him.

With at least $12 million guaranteed still coming his way, McHale will be fine. So will the Rockets' billionaire owner, Les Alexander. As for the team, that may require firing some players.

"The most dangerous time for a team is when it has success for the first time and they don't have a mature bunch of guys around," a league source said.

Before we get to the possible long-term solutions, it's worth noting that the assistant McHale had been grooming to replace him, at the behest of management, got passed over for the interim job. Chris Finch, the former British national team coach, was elevated to associate head coach under Bickerstaff.

Bickerstaff got the nod because of his acumen on the defensive side, where the Rockets need the most help, and because he has strong relationships with the players. Let's see if those relationships endure now that he's the boss.

Sources say Bickerstaff, son of respected, long-time NBA coach Bernie Bickerstaff, will have an opportunity to earn the permanent job. Depending on whether the Rockets are able to right their season, there will be no shortage of other candidates.

Every coach firing has an equal and opposite reaction, and when defense is the calling card, Jeff Van Gundy's name is sure to come up -- not to mention two of his most accomplished coaching disciples who also have Houston ties, Tom Thibodeau and Steve Clifford. Both were assistants under Van Gundy with the Rockets from 2003-07. Thibodeau was fired by the Bulls in May, and Clifford is in the final year of his contract with Charlotte.

Former Oklahoma City coach Scott Brooks, who for all his flaws had the second-best winning percentage in the league after Gregg Popovich over the past five seasons, also lurks on the free-agent market. But Van Gundy -- if he even wants to coach again -- Thibodeau and Brooks will not come cheap.

What may require even more work is the roster. Howard, who turns 30 next month, can opt out of his contract after the season -- and the Rockets might be better off moving on. Then it will be GM Daryl Morey's job to find the right pieces to complement Harden and ensure that last year's conference finals trip wasn't an anomaly.

The truth is, since the Rudy Tomjanovich era ended, the Rockets have been past the first round of the playoffs twice. And while this season's ominous beginning may be more Khloe Kardashian's fault than Kevin McHale's, such is life in the coaching business -- and for a team with high expectations and awful results.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also hearing Kevin McHale was notified late last night via text. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rockets?src=hash">#rockets</a></p>— David Nuño (@DavidNunoABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidNunoABC13/status/667018050093248512">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Stay classy, Les and Morey.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also hearing Kevin McHale was notified late last night via text. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rockets?src=hash">#rockets</a></p>— David Nuño (@DavidNunoABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidNunoABC13/status/667018050093248512">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Go read his next tweet where he says that the texting story is false.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rockets owner Les Alexander tells ESPN interim coach JB Bickerstaff will coach the rest of the season then be... <a href="https://t.co/QiUfgGODxS">https://t.co/QiUfgGODxS</a></p>— Calvin Watkins (@calvinwatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/667051274387394565">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Feel bad for McHale but given the players were not responding it was a move that had to be made. Hope JB can get them back on track.

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Omgg I can't believe this actually happened

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Howard? The guy McHale said was the only guy reliably defending with conviction? He came closest to saving his job. <a href="https://t.co/3qUplk0Ove">https://t.co/3qUplk0Ove</a></p>— Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/667045530921508864">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Thank you! Howard took us to the WCF.

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