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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Mr Chuck Norris

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    This has been the case since he got here
     
  2. ROXTXIA

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    I wouldn't say that McHale did nothing, he did somehow steward the ship last year. But I still contend we weren't winning because of him. Harden showed up last season inspired after the U.S. Basketball experience. The coaches there must have really reached him; maybe one of them planted the "you could be MVP" in his brain (or was it Morey, knowing he needed Beast Harden after losing Parsons and, essentially, Bosh?).

    But attributing much success to Milk Hair? Last year we were killing it with the substitutes, Tariq Black among them. They were hustling, they played together. But every time one of the wounded starters came back, McHale would throw them back in for 36 mpg, he'd forget the guys who'd just given him wins even exist ("he wasn't playing good defense, when he's consistent on that end of the floor..."), and the team would teeter-totter again.

    Obviously the team is a mess and poor McHale is flailing about in search of an answer. We do need someone who'll put his boot in Harden's ass, so that Harden will get his head out of Khloe's ass or whatever.

    Harden has not been the same consistent killer since he lost the MVP race.
     
  3. ashleyem

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a beautiful day in H-Town! Great days ahead <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pursuit?src=hash">#Pursuit</a></p>&mdash; Tad Brown (@tadbbrown) <a href="https://twitter.com/tadbbrown/status/665931566070108160">November 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  4. conquistador#11

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    tad brown has a dark sense of humor.
     
  5. dobro1229

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    I bet he thought there were "Great Days Ahead" for CSN Houston as well.
     
  6. SF3isBack!!

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    It would not be hard to find a coach who wouldn't jump at the chance to coach Harden and Howard. This has been discussed not just in this thread but in several others threads as well. Any coaches assistant in this league, a couple of a announcers some ex players and coaches. Any or all of those gotta be looking at the Rockets thinking they can do a better job than this guy. So that's who we get. Those are the choices. I usually watch our games with the other teams announcers and what's really telling is they have us figured out. It's time for a change. If they don't change this soon it's Morey and les fault. We can't blame McHale forever after all someone hired and extended him knowing his limitations. Even with McHale we will start winning again because harden will catch fire again. We will still struggle against top teams though.
     
  7. T_Man

    T_Man Member

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    True... But it's going to be very hard to find a GOOD coach to run Morey's offense and not his own... You can't forget about the other side of the sword.

    T_Man
     
  8. pippendagimp

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    if mchale gets replaced, ya maybe
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    So all that stuff about Durant and how he saw the Rockets organization as hungry and doing what it takes to win...

    I hope Morey realizes that keeping this coach around is not helping. This losing is not helping, we are going backwards. Why would Durant want to join a team going backwards?
     
  10. SF3isBack!!

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    Whenever you hire a coach, especially one's without experience as a head coach you take a chance. Altanta, The Warriors, The Spurs, all have head coaches who were never head coaches before. The Rockets are already at rock bottom.The NBA is a business you can't be afraid of change. There are plenty of coaching changes that don't work out but when you do finally find that coach it can be amazing for your team. That's why coaches come and go so much, teams are trying to find the right fit. This is why I was so surprised at the Mchale extension especially after the Portland series. To be honest I really don't think they will fire Mchale but they should and there are plenty of good choices out there.
     
  11. dobro1229

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    Who are all these people? Name some of them actually and tell me why?

    Also I've asked for more data of successes of early season coaching regime changes from outside coaches and you respond with vague answers. If you want productive dialog here lets drill down into data and real world past examples.
     
  12. T_Man

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    Everyone that you named were able to run their offense and not the offense the GM wanted them to run.

    Again, getting a coach with the talent that the Rockets have is not hard.. Finding a GOOD coach to be a puppet and run Morey's offense is not going to be easy.

    T_Man
     
  13. SF3isBack!!

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    Offense is not the only problem. Secondly Moreyball does not call for iso play after iso play, lol. Dwight post up, Harden iso top of the key, last second pass. I do agree that we shoudln't take mid range shots off the table, but you can have a system that doesn't rely on mid range shots with it being constant iso ball. Contested 3.
     
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    Leslie Alexander doesn't take his team seriously enough with past comment/tweets indicating that he has low expectations. He's pay so much for the most physically gifted post player in the game and 2 guard combo... It's the coaching that's the biggest problem.
     
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    You're correct... The rockets have multiple problems and they all start from the top down.

    The coach right now has no voice that is being heard... Basically they know like we know that Morey runs the team and not McHale. Morey is very good with what he does with numbers and management and that's what he needs to do. Let the coach.. COACH.. Morey needs to stop dictating the offense that will be run.

    I have seen this movie before and Dallas and it doesn't end well. Everyone in Dallas know that the coach for the Dallas Cowboys is a title only thing and that Jerry runs that show.

    So now Dallas has knuckleheads that the GM is protecting and they know the coach has no authority to discipline or say anything to them. The coach starts to lose control and players don't listen anymore...

    So basically if Morey has tried to discipline harden and he gets word from the GM to play harden.. Then what's to stop harden from running any play that he wants.. why should he listen to McHale or any other coach to play discipline...

    T_Man
     
  16. don grahamleone

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    It has taken me a long time, but I'm on the fire McHale bandwagon. I knew ya'll would save me a space.
     
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  17. don grahamleone

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    Is this guy nuts or does he know something that we don't?
     
  18. KlutchQT

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    Where is Snow Villers or whatever w/ his inside source? :/
     
  19. count_dough-ku

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    Something tells me that was wishful thinking and not inside info. The real question is if the last 3 games coupled with the first 3 of the season weren't enough to force Les and Morey's hand, what will be? The Rockets have an incredibly soft schedule coming up. If they drop most(or God forbid all) of them, do they finally make a move? Eventually we're gonna reach a point where it may be too late to salvage this season. You can't wait til the All-Star Break to do something.
     
  20. dobro1229

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    8 games left till the end of the month. You play the Knicks and the Grizz twice. Philly, Bos, Port, Det, and I think someone else. Yeah the schedule is lighter but everyone of these guys are gonna show up and give it to the Rockets. Even the Sixers are due to beat someone soon.

    So normally I'd say Christmas traditionally is when you make the change but if they don't win more than half these next 8, I could see it happening sooner.
     

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