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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. Amiga

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    Absolutely Trump. Carson is divorce from reality (he's crazy). Trump is just tapping into faux anger, but isn't crazy.
     
  2. Amiga

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    Got only themselves to blame. They see crazy and instead of dialing back, kept feeding it. Now they might just have completely lost control.
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    Viva la revolucion
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    I chose Trump also. Carson has a literal believe in the Christian Armageddon prophecies regarding Israel. He truly is a nut job. Just imagining him having access to nuclear launch codes makes my spine tingle.

    I'm still waiting on that moment in the Republican primaries where the non bat**** insane candidate pulls ahead(Rubio), but it seems to be not happening. How long was Herman Cain in the lead last election before the establishment candidates pulled ahead?
     
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  5. rimrocker

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    Roughly September through October were Cain's high point.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Interesting NYTs article this morning

    Time for GOP panic? Establishment worried Carson or Trump might win

    Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

    Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

    The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.
     
  7. ipaman

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    Trump has to be committing espionage. The deepest of deep inside jobs to destroy the GOP. A Dem in disguise on a mission. No way he can be a real candidate with that type of rhetoric.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    The thing is... the only people you can blame is the Republican base. They are the ones propping him up. The onus is on them to be rational.
     
  9. mtbrays

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    It's truly Frankenstein's monster. The establishment doesn't understand that through decades of pandering and mouth-frothing, they've created a beast that is only hungrier for more vitriol.

    I'm loving it and I hope that one of the crazies is nominated. It's what we deserve for allowing things to get to this point.
     
  10. Commodore

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  11. JuanValdez

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    Good choice of movie. Great recollection of the script. And, even does a pretty good job on the voices.
     
  12. sirbaihu

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    I posted this on the previous page. It's Washington Post, and you missed the best part!

     
  13. A_3PO

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    The banana peel comment made me laugh, but the eventuality of what's going to happen is becoming clearer. I don't understand why the anxiety of the GOP establishment is increasing. It should be decreasing.

    Trump and Carson are dead candidates walking. After Iowa, they will be done.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    But who steps up? Rubio? Cruz? Paul?

    Rubio is the type of establishment Republican that could get some serious support....but he fumbles over his words all too often making him look like a "not ready for prime time" type of candidate. That said, I do like the prospect of a Rubio-Hillary debate, it would pit new, young, and charismatic vs old and busted.

    Cruz is just too extreme on some of his views for me to think he'd stand a chance in a general election.

    Paul is the guy I'd support, but he'll never get the establishment Republicans on board, they'd rather let Hillary win than have Rand Paul take over the party.
     
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    It's probably going to eventually be either Rubio or Cruz.

    But I also have this feeling about Christie. If that guy gets ANY momentum, watch out.
     
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    It's sounding like Bridgegate's soon to be back in the news. Might be enough to sink him for good this time.
     
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    I think Christie was done before he began. When your main issue is going after states that legalized weed, you aren't a serious candidate.
     
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    Also, he's still below Huckabee and Kasich in polls....he's just wasting money staying in it.
     
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    Trump doesn't even want Trump to actually win.
     
  20. Major

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    People have been saying this for months, and it has yet to prove true. The reason the anxiety is increasing is not necessarily just their poll numbers - it's that conventional wisdom is not proving true thus far. And that means, they can't predict how things are going to play out - that's the cause of the anxiety. This part of the article summarizes the concern pretty well:

    For months, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fizzle with time. Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate. Or when summer turned to fall, kids went back to school and parents had time to assess the candidates. Or after the second, third or fourth debates, certainly.

    None of that happened, of course, leaving establishment figures disoriented.
     

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