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Ben Carson's spends a tale of black overcoming "violent past", no one can find the "violence".

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  1. Harden2Capela

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    meant to say liberals like blacks where they are, and black republicans want whats good for black people.. liberals are very much racist
     
  2. Codman

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    Say, what?

    Really?

    It's too late for this.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes like the Republicans recently that were caught saying they hoped to stop blacks from voting so the Democrats would lose.

    Preventing blacks from voting is really good for black people. That is one of many examples of things Republicans have done that black people don't feel is good for them.
     
  4. mc mark

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    So now Ben's a plagiarist too?


    Conservative hero Ben Carson hit with plagiarism scandal


    Here are the plagiarized pieces:

    Here is the passage written by Socialismsucks.net:

    Anytime you give to government the responsibility and authority to provide government-made jobs, old-age financial security, “free” health care, and “free” education and indoctrination of children, it will control the lives of the people who live under its jurisdiction, and individual liberty and freedom of choice are sacrificed.

    Sure, security is important — but anyone can find security from a prison warden. But, despite socialist promises, bureaucratic programs of the poltiical [sic] state cannot guarantee security anyway. Instead the socialist state uses its coercive powers to seize the wealth and properties of those who have earned financial security by their own hands. Socialism does not help poor people; rather, socialism makes people poor so that they have to become dependent on the socialist state and therefore beholden to those in charge of the government. Socialism is the ultimate exploitative monopoly. No competitors (market alternatives) are allowed. All major industries, including food, banking, transportation, communication, and insurance are owned and operated as state monopolies.

    Socialism is a system of authoritarian political control over the individual by bureaucratic central planners — very similar to fascism or communism. Socialism promises to use the power of the political state to forcibly redistribute resources (peoples’ earnings) so that the basic needs of all will be met. To do this, power must be centralized in the hands of the political state. When government has power over the lives and properties of its citizens, the citizens have no freedom — only the meagre privileges the state programs may dole out to them. In practice, socialism’s redistribution of wealth ends up with bureaucrats doling out poverty and dependency on the state.

    If government could give you everything you want, it must have the power to take everything you’ve got. This is the real agenda of socialism. It is the confiscation of property in the name of a “fairer” distribution of it. It is the total political institutionalization of violence and exploitation in the name of abolishing exploitation.

    Sure, there are several different brands of socialism — at least as many types as there are would-be people-planners who wish to impose their plans to control the moral and economic lives of other people. But are you willing to surrender your precious liberties to a Socialist State which promises “security” for everyone or government-enforced equality? Isn’t this what Hitler and other socialists promised the German people in his Nazi (national socialist) platform — a country in which government guarantees security and “equality” in exchange for giving up individual freedom? Will Americans continue to fall for the same scam?

    Socialism is an old dream. Some dreams are nightmares when put into practice.

    And here is the piece from Carson’s book [emphasis on plagiarized pieces courtesy of Salon]:

    In the previous chapter, we examined the enormous benefits to our country and to the world of an economic system (capitalism) that encourages innovation, hard work, and entrepreneurship. Now, after examining the pros and cons of socialism, we have seen mostly negative effects, even in terms of its lauded compassionate components, which seem good at first glance, but reveal disincentives to work and fiscal irresponsibility in the long run. Because we live in a free and open society, those who advocate socialism are free to do so, but for the well-read individual, it is easy to discern the agenda of the socialists and how they are implementing that agenda in an attempt to bring fundamental change to America. The agenda? Total government control. For jobs, income, you name it. Anytime you give to government the responsibility and authority to provide government-made jobs, old-age financial security, “free” health care, and “free” education and indoctrination of children, it will control the lives of the people who live under its jurisdiction, and individual liberty and freedom of choice are sacrificed.

    Sure, there are several different brands of socialism — at least as many types as there are would-be people-planners who wish to impose their plans to control the moral and economic lives of other people. But are you willing to surrender your precious liberties to a socialist state which promises “security” for everyone and government-enforced equality? Isn’t this what Hitler and other socialists promised the German people in his Nazi (national socialist) platform — a country in which government guarantees security and “equality” in exchange for giving up individual freedom? Will Americans fall for the same scam?

    Since Americans are by nature individualistic and entrepreneurial, by definition, then, the socialist program is anti-American, to say nothing of totalitarian.

    Socialism is an old dream. Some dreams are nightmares when put into practice.
     
  5. Deckard

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    With all due respect, what a steaming pile of crap.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Actually there are plenty plenty of liberals with bias against blacks.
     
  7. jo mama

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    http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-carson-profits-friendship-felon-085227938--election.html

     
  8. larsv8

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    Ben Carson is the gift that keeps on giving.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    Guess he was high enough on the pyramid to not get ****ed by his buddy.
     
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    It's getting a little quiet in here from the usual suspects.

    Anyone still shortsighted enough to continue supporting and defending this buffoon (other than Harden2Capela, who appears to be Ben Carson's love child with Sara Palin) deserves all the scorn and ridicule they receive.
     
  12. glynch

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    What's the deal? You have a small biz and resent paying your workers minimum wage?
     
  13. glynch

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    Yeah, but are as many liberals as biased against blacks as conservatives? Do liberals try to stop blacks from voting or try to keep then from health care or try to ban affirmative action, or try to defund the free lunch program and WIC or believe that Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya?
     
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    duplicate
     
    #254 glynch, Nov 12, 2015
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    My favorite parts of the article about Ben's relationship with the convicted felon dentist when speaking of the dishonest dentist who ripped off the health care system:

    "We became friends about a decade ago because we discovered that we were so much alike and shared the same values and principles that govern our lives," Carson told the judge, adding that their families vacationed together and that they were involved in "joint projects."

    "Next to my wife of 32 years, there is no one on this planet that I trust more than Al Costa," Carson said.


    Also: Carson's appeal for leniency toward Costa contradicts the draconian criminal penalties he called for in his 2013 political treatise, "America the Beautiful." In his book, Carson wrote that anyone found guilty of health care fraud should face what he called the "Saudi Arabian Solution."

    and of course his continued relationship with the felonious dentist.

    Costa has served on the board of Carson's charity, the Carson Scholars Fund, and continues to lead the charity's fundraising efforts in the Pittsburgh area to provide $1,000 college scholarships to children in need


    Despite the tough-on-crime message, Carson and his wife kept their investment with Costa in the years since his conviction. Tax bills for the Pittsburgh office building owned by the couple are mailed to Costa Land Co. A recent lease for a portion of the property was signed on the Carsons' behalf by the president of Costa's company
     
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    I remember doing some canvasing for John Kerry back in the day and this well-off, Berkeley liberal says to me "What do you think of this Barack Obama guy? He could win. People would vote for him. It's not like he is a real black." :grin:
     
  17. sirbaihu

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    Why do conservatives not like white democrats?
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Difference between bias and policy positions.

    I think the stuff that conservatives do as part marginalizing and part comedy of stupidity in regards to race (the whole birther thing).

    But much of the damaging racism - both liberals and conservatives are guilty of - it's far more subtle and insidious. White liberals are just as guilty on preferring to work with white people.

    Racism doesn't make people evil. That's what we have to get over in this country. Admitting to having bias isn't a reason to be condemned, it's a great thing - a great admission. Because only if you recognize it can you stop it.

    We need people to be open about their biases and start recognizing them and we need to stop treating people who do as villains but rather as humans.
     
  19. dc rock

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    He was protected in the hermetically sealed grain-chambers.
     
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