Firstly you named the reason why many like Harrell. When a 2nd round rookie comes in and plays hard, efficiently with flashy dunks, fans are going to kill like him. His performances where magnified as because he was the only player playing hard and well during our 0-3 start. Its special for a rookie to come out and hustle hard hwhile all the vets are lost. Also, I didn't see him as lost on offense, and he played good 1 on 1 D. A reason why the opposing team ran a layup fest when he was in the game is because he isn't played with Capela or Howard, he has only been played real minutes next to Jones. Which leads to my next point. I disagree with you saying he won't get playing time no matter how well he plays. The reason he hasn't been playing imo is because Jones got Injured and Thornton started balling. Harrell can't play center he's too small, so he has to play PF next to another big, our only bigs right now are Howard and Capela but they don't have range. Hence we are glueing him to the bench while giving Thortnon big minutes and sliding Ariza to the PF spot. Once Jones/Motie comes back I think we might see more of Harrell, but maybe not because Thornton has been playing so well and will keep his rotation spot.
Excuse me..but really that's what you got from my post? "Because I said so" ??Really? I explained why he wouldn't fit. Same reason why he has problems in Charlotte now. Because he doesn't pass the ball out of a doubleteam. He holds into it until there are a few seconds in the shotclock and the perimeter players are forced to take desperate shots. On top of that he's a blackhole in defence. We have DMO with his postups and with his average defence , we could play pnr with Capella and we have Lawson with his penetration. The reason these things aren't utilised it's not of a lack of talent. It's of injuries and a lack of good coaching. As for losing 25 pounds, yes that tells me nothing except that he is lazy and wants to try to steal money from a franchise to get his new contract and then get fat again as he has been for the last 3+ years. He comes out of shape to training camp repeatedly. Just because it's his contract year he decided to cut the Popeye chicken and even complained about it. Good luck to the next team that signs him.
So let me get this straight. You're arguing the 290 pound version of Big Al wasn't going to get paid and he ONLY cut the pounds (despite his injury history) to best increase his chances of getting a fat paycheck? Well, you're either being really naive or really stubborn. I can't figure out which one it is. Either way, you have a clear disliking for the guy that seems to preclude the possibility of ever having a rational discussion on the matter.
Bev, Brewer, Jones, & McDaniels for Batum, expiring + either M.Williams, expiring or Zeller Lawson, Thornton/Terry Harden, Thornton/Terry/Batum Ariza, Batum, Dekker Williams or Zeller, Harrell, Motiejunas* Howard, Capela, Motiejunas*
Yes. It's called CONTRACT YEAR. Say what you want He's not the only one who suddendly tries to get on shape to get paid. The fact that you think it's naive to think that when in the history of the league countless players have done the same speaks of your ignorance. (and another newsflash for you there are many people,,journalists and analysts who have called him out on that exactly. Contract year behaviour. ). And I dont' dislike Big Al. I think he doesnt' fit. No. Batum cost Charlotte Vonleh a blue chip rookie prospect. And they dont' need Jones. You have to raise the value by a lot to get him. (and he's going to get $$$, more than Jones).
Way to avoid the question Look, we get it: you don't like him. I also know from experience you're one of those posters that absolutely has to get the last word in no matter how right or wrong you are. Respectfully, your counterargument did nothing to sway my opinion - not even close, and I'm just going to leave it at that. Big Al was just an idea that hasn't been discussed yet. He's one of the few big(ish) names that appears likely to be available around the deadline, and one that we could feasibly acquire without risking much of anything beyond this season. The West is an arm's race - and we both know DM is going to be very active, as usual, around the trade deadline. Carry on.
He's certainly attainable for cheap except for salary matching. Don't remember what he makes but many players will have to be involved. It's not if I like him or not. I explained why in my opinion he won't fit. Because he won't kick out of the doubleteam to the shooters as Moreyball dictates. DMO works because he's an excellent passer. Big Al isn't. It's not my personal opinion to say that, it's the truth. Another truth is that he's a dreadful defender. If we are going to get someone he should be someone that can give us something in the playoffs, where defence is needed. If it's only for postups we can use DMO. Big Al has a beautiful post game and I dont' hate him. Sometimes it's a beauty to watch him play. I also understand that it was just an idea, and I just voiced my opinion on whether he would fit or not. My opinion is he won't. But you called me naive and said I must be always right or whatever. As you said your idea and opinion I posted mine. Some people liked your idea, I didn't. No big deal.
Trading for someone like big Al doesent add anything to this team. For this Offense to operate fully we need a player to bring in 2 things: Spacing and Shooting. He does none of those things. For this Defense to be a much better Unit we need a player that bring three things: Great post defense, good weak side help cuz howard helps alot, good rebounding. He arguably brings one of those attributes. 1/5 = bad fit and bad trade: Our players on the block should include: Jones,Brew,KJ, Dekker, Draft picks..that should net you a pf that atleast does 3/5 things listed and if we r lucky 4/5
He makes $13.5m this season. And that's a load of $$ to tie up in one position - $22.3m for Dwert , $13.5m for Al and $1.6m for Capela. I like the thought process .... but think you could look for a PF in a similar situation and come out better. Just remember that they cant pull a deal with that much salary incoming (without adding Ariza or Lawson and I just can't see that) prior to Jan 15th.
He's going to be a very good 4-5 in this league for many years. May not reach superstar status. But they're burying him in Charlotte. He's a definite rotation big on a championship team and would bring us exactly what we need in our big man rotation. Which is to say a big man that is a better player than Capela, that pushes Capela down to the fourth spot in our big man rotation. Dwight/DMo/Cody/Capela....that's a great big man rotation. Sign Delfino or one more guy to stretch the floor and go with this quartet and our perimeter guys.
Oh god I didn't mean to start this. 7.5 points, 5.8 ebounds on 46% in 24 minutes with only 0.8 blocks... On a crappy Horntes team. Capela's numbers this year KILL those. Zeller seems like he will be a quality backup player who will have a long career, but Im not sure he will ever be starter quality on a good team. This is is 3rd season so we shall see.
There you go with "numbers" again. Gotta watch the games. At this stage of their respective careers, Zeller is the better player. Different teams, different systems, different roles. Gotta watch the games.
Well I don't watch ever single NBA basketball game like you do I just watch every single Rocket game. So when valueing or comparing other NBA players I have to go off of their stats, they don't tell the whole story, but give you a pretty damn good idea of the plot.
