If you make it a teaching moment, its time not wasted. What positive lesson can students learn from this?
Any positives are overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives of this case. I've expressed my opinion. I'll try to keep quiet and let others speak.
Come on: are you seriously a teacher? Are you trying to spin this into a positive event? I was trying to bow out of this dead thread. OK, some people think the event was good and some people don't. Happy?
You're the one saying the kid did nothing wrong. Aside from that attitude, your continuous insults lead me to question how "great" a teacher you claim to be. You are pretty dense to think that I'm trying to spin anything positive out of this, but it happened, and I'd take this as an opportunity to tell the kids that this could have been avoided if she had simply followed some simple directives. Besides, did the teacher call the administrator or did the teacher call for security. You seem to enjoy putting it on the teacher that they made the decision to call security. If the administrator was involved, you can bet your bottom dollar that it was the admin that called for security. And sometimes in life, bad things happen to good people. Imagine that.
I never said I was a "great" teacher. What are the quotation marks for? Oh, good point: it's an opportunity to tell the students to follow the rules! Very innovative. After they saw the girl get thrown, your verbal reminder would really drive the point home. I'll try to be clear: the student did something wrong, the teacher sucked ass, the administrator may have sucked ass, the school probably sucks ass, the guard sucked ass and lost his job. Everyone except the student was an adult performing a job. The student does not get paid for her student skills. The student has no professional responsibility for anyone else. Teachers are not the same as students. Teachers are not held to the same standards as students. If you--supposedly a teacher--think students' and teachers' behavior in the classroom should be evaluated the same way, you are seriously confused about your job.
Almost everyone did their job correctly with the one exception of the cop who used excessive force when doing his job. The only people doing anything wrong whatsoever were the students that got themselves arrested, and the cop that used excessive force when arresting the first girl. The teacher did exactly what she should have done.
Where is ANYONE making a claim that students should be held to teacher standards. Students are held to standards of the students code of conduct. At this point, you hardly warrant a response. You've made your position clear. My job is not to make excuses for kids. I guess that's your job, and you're pretty damn good at your job I might add. You must be the cool teacher that doesn't enforce any rules that require you to send a kid out. Great job. That's your call though. Not everyone chooses to look the other way or ignore a problem until it goes away. Some choose to nip it in the bud. You've taught one year in a public high school and think you have the answers to public school situations. Ha!
To be honest, with all the BS I went through in school during the 80s to 90s.... I think a cop doing this to kids that want to disrupt might have been a great idea.. School is a job that need not be disrupted...
These sound like reasonable procedures in horrible circumstances. Anyway it goes, physical force may end up being used on a student, but at least with these procedures the other students' educational time is being respected and the offending student is given plenty of time to correct their behavior before force is applied. Everybody loses in cases like this.
Upset? Call an administrator? What are you...in middle school? Nah, I'll just ignore you. You're obviously just trolling.Talking about a hs situation like you're in it..LOL...Just an ignorant fool.
