Bear destroys womans Kayak

Mace is too subtle, 30.06 would have been the proper way to ask the bear to not destroy your stuff.

 

Your gun comes in a cardboard box? Awesome. So did my Daisy when I was 6.

Don't leave food and stuff in you tent/canoe/kayak. Pretty simple. Don't blame the bear unless it's all up in your personal space, then kill the b*stard.

 

No, that's not an actual picture of one of my guns, just a picture of a random 30.06.

Also, I'm not suggesting "blaming the bear", just not letting it destroy your stuff.

I mean, if it was some kind of endangered type of bear or whatever, then you look for another way, but black bears are all over the place and can be a nuisance.

 

Just ****ing with you. Bear spray works, so does prevention when you're in bear country.

I just don't like killing things unless I have to. or I'm going to eat them.

That video is hilarious though...."BEAR, PLEASE BEAR, don't do that!. OH Bear!" Like it gives a **** about that hippies' stuff.

 

LOL :grin:

Spoiler

BEAR, STOP IT! STOP THAT BEAR! BEAR STOP! STOP BREAKING MY KAYAK! BEAR PLEASE STOP! IT'S THE END OF SEPTEMBER! WHY ARE YOU HERE? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ASLEEP. WHY ARE YOU HERE? BEAR! BEAR! STOP THAT! STOP THAT! BEAR STOP THAT! BEAR STOP THAT! BEAR STOP THAT! PLEASE STOP THAT BEAR! BEAR PLEASE STOP THAT! PLEASE STOP BREAKING MY THINGS! PLEASE STOP BREAKING MY THINGS BEAR! BEAR! PLEASE STOP BREAKING MY THINGS! IT'S NOT EVEN FOOD. IT DOESN'T EVEN TASTE GOOD. IT'S JUST PLASTIC. PLEASE STOP BEAR. BEAR, PLEASE STOP THAT! BEAR, PLEASE STOP! BEAR! BEAR! BEAR! BEAR! BEAR, PLEASE STOP!

 

That's got to be a voice-over. That woman is too annoying, and I laughed too much at her for it not to be.


Doesn't she realize bear only know Chinese?

 

Yeah i understand that, I'm not big on killing things that I don't plan on eating....I've heard that if you prepare it correctly black bear can be alright. I dunno, if a black bear was tearing up my stuff I'd probably get a chance to find out for myself.

 

From what my Alaska buddies say, a skinned black bear hanging up looks creepily similar to a human. Doesn't taste bad, though, but I'm not in a hurry to find out. Way back in the day they used to sell that along with bison/elk/deer/whatever at the work camps in the Plains/Northwest.

To the other point, yeah, prevention is the key when you're in bear country.

Or bat country.

 

It's a good thing she didn't look like JVG!!!
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The habituation of bears is completely our fault, certainly on the popular hiking trails in Colorado it is. Killing one to save a kayak? really?

 

The woman was on a solo trek through Alaska. Far away from civilization, that kayak is her only means of survival. Luckily enough, there was a boat nearby. But in the area she was in, it could've been days before she found someone.

 

There's not a shortage of black bears in Alaska, she had a shortage of kayaks.

 

I'm not talking about her. She didn't shoot the bear. I'm talking about others in this thread who seem to say Save Hiking/Rafting/Kayaking Property,,,Kill the Bear.

btw, was it remote, or was there a boat nearby? How can it be her only form of survival if there is a boat with her? She was probably with that boat. And that ramp she's on tends to say that area is not really that remote. But maybe I "need to hear both sides" Regardless, if she is trekking by herself in remote Alaskan territory without a buddy in a second kayak or boat, that's pretty stupid of her.

Oh, I will die out here by myself if a plethora of things go wrong, but I gotta do this.

 

It's okay, I would balance it out by hugging a tree after I shot and dressed the bear.

 

I have no problem with shooting a bear. But I wouldn't attempt it unless that was my last resort. It only makes them mad, if you fail on the first shot. Park Rangers aren't tree huggers Bobby, and they don't shoot first.

Regardless, the stupid hikers in CO who can't follow the rules of hiding food from bears only makes the experience more dangerous for the rest of us. It's very easy to follow the advice of Rangers and create the 100 yard triangle and hide your food in a bear proof containers that eliminate odor.

The use of deadly force is completely avoidable. Bears don't hunt down hikers to kill us for food.

 

You said kill the bear to save a kayak, so I figured you were talking about her. It was a remote area, despite another boat being there coincidentally and a ramp being constructed. They're all over Alaska, inhabited or not.

But yeah, I agree. I would never kayak alone. She was on day 5 of a 20-day trip that clearly had to be cut short. Luckily, only property was damaged and the woman and bear could go separate ways. But if it comes down to your survival vs the bear, I choose myself. I heard you only get one shot to surprise a bear with mace, and afterwards, it's pretty ineffective. She should've carried a firearm with her. Fire a warning shot to scare the bear, and shoot the bear only if it continues to threaten you.

 

Of course.

Yes, load noise is a good practice. We carry blow horns in CO. They are pretty light. Just as effective as a warning shot.

But, be careful about shooting a bear, that's one of the ways people get killed. "Threatening you" would be charging you or invading your tent. That's rare, and usually the hikers fault to begin with for making bad choices earlier, like making the bear attack you, because you only winged it. "Shoot to kill" is not as effective as you might want it to be. Bears can sustain multiple shots and still kill you.

Don't wing a bear.

Shooting a bear to save hiking equipment is dangerous.

 

https://www.princeton.edu/~oa/training/bearbag.shtml

 

Humans are slow. We can't all run like an antelope.