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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Disgraceful? Hyperbole much?

    I'd imagine you'd take the other angle if we lost tonight.
     
  2. rocketpower2

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    Not at all. I'd have rather played my best guys 30 minutes tonight and lose rather than tire them out and win. These are the type of games that accrue seasonal fatigue quicker then you want.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    There's a pattern here.... Lots of skating as a Houston head coach.
     
  4. DreamShook

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    Mchale was forced to play Montrezl at the 5 because Capela and Chuck were in foul trouble. Montrezl wasn't going to play today. The game was almost lost when Montrezl came in. Its no coincidence that the big leads that have been lost this season were because Montrezl was playing the 5.

    It's not all on McHale. That taking the starters out with 45 seconds left was damn stupid though.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Lack of an actual offensive system is what is causing the Rockets to have these random 5 minute strecthes of bricking contested 3s allowing scrub steams to erase 20 pt deficits. Ya, McHale needs to be fired. This team is solely winning on talent alone.
     
  6. el_locoteee

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    If you best guy can only play 30 minutes you are screwed.

    Lol.

    Kobe player over 30 minutes 15 straight years won 5 championships in the process and avg. 40+ MPG in 4 of that 15 year run, but softy fan is scared of the best player earning the big dollars.
     
  7. Noob Cake

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    Exactly, I've been saying this for 3 years + questionable game tempo management via substitutions and timeouts.
     
  8. el_locoteee

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    Those 45 sec turned into 5 minutes and he still left Harden out there to make FTs as well as Lawson.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Definitely. Harden can run up big points with good percentages against crap teams but this kind of stuff won't fly with any consistency against better teams.
     
  10. snowconeman22

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    Mchale' philosophy is hard for a lot of the posters here to grasp . For him the game is all about the players . He doesn't take credit when things go right and he doesn't take all of the blame when things go wrong . How many times does he say ," the players play the game ." ? Look I understand that the appearance of a lack of a system and plays being called can seem bad , but letting the guys get spontaneous experience is crucial.

    Mchale didn't blow that lead , the players blew it . Calling a timeout does what ? Refocuses the team ? It's early in the season , it's better for the team in the long run if they learn to get back in the groove themselves . I can't fault the dude for rotations considering Capela was in foul trouble and all of our other bigs are hurt . Turnovers killed us , and it was our new point guard turning it over and not creating for others . The blame for losing that lead falls mostly on Lawson .

    We've climbed out of a 3-0 hole and are back at .500 . You can't win the chip in November. Also LOL at the guy that said he would rather harden play 30 min and we lose .
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You sure as hell can lose home court in the playoffs in November.

    We grasp McHale's philosophy. Play hard, run around throwing stuff up until you catch a rhythm, and let your best player ISO whenever he wants.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    You can't see the fact that a lack of a cohesive well practiced offensive system creates these long stretches of players confused and jacking up contested 3s?
     
  13. snowconeman22

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    Thank you for making my point . What you described is not McHales system . How many post game conferences have you listen to where he states that the ball was too sticky . Mchale is absolutely a proponent of ball movement and off ball movement. He lets out players instinctively play and there is a lot of freedom involved. People want to play like the Spurs , but we don't have comparable players , it wouldn't work .
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    I don't know what Rockets team you've been watching for the past 6 years, but offense hasn't been the issue as it's been consistently above average and top 5 and top 10 for 3 seasons. I'd say the inconsistent defensive focus is the bigger issue.
     
  15. CometsWin

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    He's been saying the ball was sticky for years and the ball is STILL "sticky". You can't be a proponent of diametrically opposed ideas. That's called being a politician. When the ISO ball goes in the basket then it's player freedom and when the ball doesn't go in the basket then we need more movement. It's a shell game. Get a clue.
     
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    If there is anything he should be fired for, it's not playing Marcus Thornton in the first two games. It took for another freak injury to jones for him to even use him.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    They've both been an issue, especially in the playoffs. Maybe you've been watching the Toledo Rockets or something.
     
  18. snowconeman22

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    It's up to the players to make the correct decisions . Harden is an exceptional passer and he's almost always willing to unless it's more advantageous to try and draw fouls . Im not saying Mchale is perfect , but saying that he doesn't preach ball movement is just incorrect. However , he also gives his players slot of freedom in terms of which cuts to make and when to pass etc . We usually do a very good job of generating open looks , we just have trouble executing those looks . It's tough for any offense to be great when you aren't getting any stops . Our offense is fine , our defense is fine , our health is not fine .

    Was there a problem with McHales system when we were close to taking both games in golden state without two starters and playing a pair of 40 year old point guards ? What about when we came back on the clippers down 3games to 1 ? Or in that same series when we had a 20 point comeback. What about when josh and Dwight connected on what felt like 10 alley oops in that Dallas game ? Sure you could argue that was all player brilliance , but still McHales system allowed those players to find those niches and play like that .

    it would be one thing if people just wanted mchale to maybe design and call a few more plays , but they want a full redesign of the offense , the defense , the staff , it's insane . Mchale is fine , when we win the chip it will be due to the players , but mchale will be the one that enabled them to play to their potential .
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    No, its up the having a cohesive offensive system that is drilled to death in practice.
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Really? Aside from the Portland series, when did we underperform?
     

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